I haven't been that close to becoming boyfriends since Jan 2015, but at the end it failed for the usual reasons: the Holy Trinity of Stupid, Lazy, Greedy, like all the other boys, and a bit of drama and mood swings thrown in!
This boy messaged me on 30jun2017 on hornet, when I was in Singhburi and he in Pitsanulok, quite a distance! Quickly move the chat to Line (for multiple reasons: in Line I can save the chat as text, in hornet the only option is to take screenshots; when my chat partner deletes his profile on hornet, all chat will be gone for me as well; on Line I get a vibration when a new message comes in, on hornet not).
Chat and translation in plain text, explanations and additional information in bold. Chat from the very beginning, weeks before we would finally meet.
I do this now every time: write the Line ID, link to hornet profile, and greet the boy with his name and location, for later reference.
12:17 Christian I'm Christian from Germany, now in Bangkok.
I don’t to cam sex or sexy pictures. But better the boy asks to see my cock than asks for money! I appreciate the question, now I know we are looking for the same thing!
12:33 Bas Plok [Sticker]
Try to intercept all requests for money early on.
20:47 Bas Plok Love you
On the other hand, this information is almost worthless: a boy who asks for money will want money, and a boy who does not ask for money might want money nonetheless.
Just before my trip to Myanmar. However knowing how unreliable Thai boys are, I don’t count on these dates, and indeed he was not here 2-6aug.
22:23 Bas Plok Ok
This comes as a surprise. Usually I detect early on if a boy writes English himself or uses automatic translation.
22:53 Christian Good night. I sleep now.
Videochat positive, he will arrive in Bangkok on 18jul2017. That is great, saves me the trip to Pitsanulok or Sukhothai, because if he hadn’t come to Bangkok, I would have gone to see him there that very week.
21:27 Christian Thank you.
Now it’s time to switch to Thai, too many automatic translations that I don’t understand. In hindsight, he means he doesn’t know his way around Bangkok.
21:29 Bas Plok [Sticker]
Both ranges are Tue-Thu. I like to travel anti-cyclic, in the middle of the week, when everyone is working and roads and hotels are free. And be in Bangkok over the weekend, when the saunas are busy.
21:35 Bas Plok คุณไปพิษณุโลกยังไง How will you come to Pitsanulok?
Another misinformation! On the other hand, every now and then I change my plans, and I don’t know what else he has to arrange his travel dates with.
21:36 Bas Plok ขึ้นรถที่หมอชิต From Mor Chit.
I do not fully understand what he means. But there is a hesitation, and in such a case I don’t rely on the on the boy but plan independently.
Now this is tricky. He comes to Bankok, but does not know if we can meet. I have been in Bangkok for two weeks now, so I want to travel this week, either to go to see him in Pitsanulok or to Pattaya. Go to Pattaya Tue-Thu and keep quiet about it, and he doesn’t text me these three days either. That would have been awkward to explain, on the day he comes to see me in Bangkok, I leave for Pattaya.
18:02 Christian Hello
11 pm is almost bedtime for me. And I hope there will be sex, so that has to start as early as possible.
10:28 Bas Plok โอเคร ฉันจะบอกคุณอีกที Okay. I will tell you later.
12:39 Bas Plok อร่อยไหม Is it delicious?
My plan to have sex and then sleep midnight is falling apart.
22:02 Christian ทำไม Why?
Please not that bullshit again, asking for boyfriend before even meeting!
22:05 Christian เจอกันก่อน Let’s meet first.
Meet at Ganesha shrine near Huay Kwang MRT, then walk about 200 m to a restaurant and have dinner there (party of 4, Bas brought two girls). All impressions positive, no foul language, and at the end the bill is 878 THB for 4, Bas takes his mobile phone to divide by 4 and shows me the result, so I give 220 Baht while his friend pays with a 1000 Baht note.
1:57 Christian ถึงห้อง ผมชอบคุน ฝันดี I’m home. I like you. Nice dreams!
Sleep. Sat 22jul2017.
10:10 Christian มอนิ่ง Good morning.
Oh no, please not again! If I had one Baht every time I heard that line, I would be 685 Baht richer now.
11:10 Bas Plok แต่ถ้านั่งรถเมล์อาจจะไปได้ But if I go by bus it’s enough.
Oh now! If I had one Baht every time…
11:17 Christian นั่งเรือไปตากสินก็ได้ You can take the boat to Taksin pier as well.
I like you and I want to have sex with you. But I don’t have time to explain in Thai, and anyway if I did I would probably lose him.
11:19 Bas Plok รู้จัก I know.
Normally I would go by bus, but I’m running late. Taxi 14:13-58 and 135+5 Baht. Return by taxi as well, 15:27-16:05 and 115+5 Bath. In Pata, in his presence, I bought new shorts which sent a wrong signal: first because I made him wait while I selected the shorts and second because it was 998 THB whereas similar can be had for half on local markets. And the pockets are a bit tight.
Back in my room, shower and have good sex. Then nap, and after the nap good sex again. One of the few good sex this year (where the boy had his mind on having a good time, and not how to make me pay for his sick father’s medical treatment, his rent, schooling fees, new mobile phone, whatever).
Everything else positive as well (e.g. he uses the toilet paper roll with lowest amount of paper first).
Then MRT to Chatuchak and walk to JJ Green market and spend there 22:07-23:17. He looks at used shoes but is not happy with style or price. He buys two shirts and pays with a 1000 Baht note, and I think I saw 3 x 1000 Bath note in his wallet. But before and after market whining about lack of money.
When we say goodbye (I have to catch the last MRT) he asks for 100 for taxi. I take MRT to QSNCC and do fruit shopping in Klong Toey market, them walk home.
Fuck! Leave that message read and think what to do.
14:09 Bas Plok ??
He saw I read the message and waits for an answer.
14:10 Christian สยาม ผมชอบโรงภาพยนตร์สกาลา Siam. I like Scala Cinema.
It is not! Scala is one of the cheapest cinemas in Bangkok, and the most beautiful one. Anyway, he doesn’t even know it!
14:11 Bas Plok ดูที่อื่นถูกกว่า Go to cinema else is cheaper.
Talk and cancel appointment. I had made up my mind in the morning already that I will not go to pick him up again, but told him only 2 pm and thus wasted an entire Sunday for both of us. I could have gone somewhere else and so could he. But now, 14:30, it’s too late to go to the swimming pool that has cute boys earlier, and too sunny anyway. Thus, I spend the whole Sunday in my room, reading on books and internet.
His ignorance (of traveling in Bangkok) is bigger than his love to me, and my laziness (to go to pick him up) is bigger than my love to him. In the past I was enamored with several boys, who I would have picked up and brought back a second and third time, but all of them where big disappointments in the end, and my willingness to pick up someone a second time is now almost used up.
And I have to say “NO” somewhere in a burgeoning relationship, to draw lines. Else the boy gets spoiled.
The pictures of us he posted on facebook yesterday has drawn 322 likes and 122 comments!
14:30 Bas Plok รักคุณ I love you.
It seems the boy is in chatty mode. But I have a blog to write, some forums to follow, a trip to Myanmar to prepare.
18:10 Bas Plok โอเครๆ Okay.
9:42 Christian มอนิ่งที่รัก Good morning dear.
I have to start slowly and find some common ground: eating, entertainment, before committing to more than 3d2n.
22:57 Bas Plok วันพฤหัสบดีวันเกิดคุณ Thursday is your birthday.
A last desperate attempt to get the boy to come somewhere closer so I don’t have to go all the way to Pinklao and back.
23:11 Bas Plok พาต้า Pata.
This is general. Apart from sex, there is not much to do together. So I can at least have the morning and midday to my own: blog, forums, prepare Myanmar trip.
9:44 Bas Plok โอเคร Okay.
9:45 Bas Plok ฉันมีความสุขมาก ที่ได้เจอคุณ I’m happy that we will meet today.
That was 14:41-15:44 and 9 Baht by bus 149 to Pata. And the return trip will be 16:14-18:12 and 18 Baht (for two) by bus 149. That’s 3 h 1 min spent on bus to pick up a boy! He seems not happy about going by bus, but I have to make clear that that will be our main mode of transport in Bangkok.
"Lots of people want to ride with you in the limo, but what you want is someone who will take the bus with you when the limo breaks down." - Oprah Winfrey
We have dinner, then good sex, then sleep.
In the morning a Thai friend (just friend, no sex) comes to see me for help to copy date from his phone to memory card. Then taxi (here justified because we were running late) to pharmacy opposite Chula to buy medicine for a Farang friend. Then another taxi to Scala cinema to watch Valerian. On the return, by bus, deliver medicine to Farang friend.
I thought he will stay another night to spend Thursday my birthday with me, but checks out now already and we say goodbye 20:00 on the road. I get hard from hugging goodbye.
Absurd: I pick him up and take him back to my room by bus, and then give him taxi money so he can take taxi to his friend’s room.
20:05 Bas Plok รักน่ะ Love.
Unusual, but I have heard that several times now. A good trend, first because I like dark skin, and second because I dislike cosmetics (and skin whitening creams count as such) on my sexual objects.
20:21 Bas Plok ชอบทะเล I like the sea.
I don’t celebrate my birthday any more, and the haircut and shave (for 60 Baht in the slum) was the highlight of this birthday.
13:45 Bas Plok ฉันอาบน้ำ ไปโรงละครแห่งชาติก่อน I’m showering. Then to got National Theater.
I don’t want to go anywhere, I want to have sex with you!
14:13 Bas Plok เดี่ยวบาสบอกน่ะ I will tell you later.
That comes as a surprise. The questions of boyfriendship and celibacy were going through my mind (why should I pay 500 or 1000 Baht for a boy whom I have to squeeze every hug out, when I can have Bas for free?), but this is the tipping point: I will not stay home alone over the weekend and wait for his return, but go to saunas or online dating (I had put all other activities on hold).
20:48 Bas Plok ไปเที่ยวบ้านเพื่อน Go to a friend’s house.
I handn’t read the return on Sunday and was shocked to lose him that quickly. Glad I didn’t invest any time or make any plans with my Farang friend for the trip to Koh Samet, it would all have been in vain. But read again, he didn’t say he will come to Koh Samet, he said he would like to. And I said it’s not sure.
20:54 Bas Plok ป่าว No.
10:08 Christian มอนิ่งที่รัก Morning dear.
And here is the turning point where it all goes wrong, for the usual reason: money.
This is going down the same road as all the others. Poor management, money problems, drama queen/mood swings, and my position is that of problem solver. Ex-BFC6in2017. It doesn’t add up: He got to Mor Chit, and got tickets for bus to Kamphaeng Phet (which is a waste of time and money if you look at a map: Pitsanulok to Bangkok to Kamphaeng Phet to Bangkok to Pitsanulok), and suddenly he and his friend have no cash?
Or should I just accept that I can’t educate the boy to be economical (bus versus taxi) and manage his money better? And just cater to his whims, lest I lose him? However once you start, there will be no end to their demands!
I have a principle: no online money transfers (I have violated this principle only for three boys – PB in KSCh, Win in NS, Top Sirirat - so far, despite dozens of attempts by other boys). If you want money from me, you have to get it from my warm, live hands. (my variation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_my_cold,_dead_hands)
And now I torment myself: should I have onlined him the money, would that have saved it or just delayed the decline?
Sleep over it and don’t mention it again.
I leave this question open, but I’m afraid I have to do the return trip to Pinklao again.
21:48 Christian [Photo]
Notice the change in chat from “miss you, love you, take care, have you eaten yet” to “Can I have money?”
10:53 Christian เงินสด Cash.
It’s a disgrace! A doctor of chemistry, who speaks five languages, has to travel to pick up a Thai boy who is too lazy or stupid to take a bus or taxi!
14:53 Bas Plok โอเคร Okay.
17:34 Bas Plok รถติดมาก Traffic jam.
I alighted in Lotus Pinklao, which is 300 m before Central Pinklao. Thus part of the following confusion and delay is my mistake.
17:56 Bas Plok อยุ่ตรงไหน Where exactly?
Finally, after half an hour erring around*, we meet! And now when I ask him where or what to eat: “I don’t know”, so it’s foodcourt (cheaper and faster than shabu as he proposed in chat before). After that shopping, I pay for two shirts (595 THB). I invite him to my room, but he has to pack for the trip tomorrow morning. Hug him for goodbye, and I almost get an erection. There is still hope!
Strangely he doesn’t pick me up on the offer of 500 THB cash from some days ago (did he forget?), but at the bus stop asks for money and specifies 200 THB, which I give him (the advantage of boys who had no previous contact with foreigners, the numbers are much lower).
I’m glad we could wrap this up as a friendly parting with prospect to meet again in Pitsanulok. But now several character flaws very clearly shown.
*This is general when meeting someone in a mall. I should change my approach from erring around hunting boys to taking a seat somewhere, preferably foodcourt in combination with a meal, and let the boy come to me.
19:40 Bas Plok รักคุณน่ะ I love you.
9:21 Christian คิดถึง Miss you.
14:27 Bas Plok คิดถึงเหมือนกัน Miss you too.
15:52 Bas Plok ถึง พิษณุโลกแล้ว I reached Pitsanulok.
15:53 Christian [Photo]
15:53 Christian คลองแสนแสบ Saen Saep Canal (tourist boat).
15:54 Bas Plok เที่ยวหรอ Tourism?
15:54 Christian ใช่ Yes.
15:55 Bas Plok เที่ยวให้สนุกน่ะ Have fun.
After that drama I need a rest, and his return to Pitsanulok and my trip to Myanmar is a clear cut here. When back from Myanmar, I will go to see him in Pitsanulok as soon as possible (convenient location: easily accessible by train, I haven’t been but there is enough to see to keep me entertained for days in case meeting fails).
What should I have done differently?
During the first days, when he was chatty and emotional, I should have told him more often that I love him and miss him (even if I just like him and want sex).
Pick him up or not? It makes no sense: I spend a lot of time in saunas where I know the chances of meeting someone is low, and here I have someone but refuse to go to pick him up. But you have to see the educational value of saying "no" or taking bus instead of taxi.
Send money online or not? I'm in a quandary: if I online money now, he is happy now, but will be back with requests for more later. Rather curb inappropriate behavior in the beginning.
Or is it a case of "Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig."? I will not educate the boy, only alienate or lose him?
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