Abandoned Cinemas (3)
Prince Theater ปรินซ์ราม่า in Bangkok Bang Rak
The theater is currently (visit 26 and 29aug2017) being gutted, construction work inside, but the walls will remain.
13°43'14.3"N 100°30'59.7"E = 13.720633, 100.516591
Accessible from Charoenkrung road or Sri Viang road;
between BTS Saphan Taksin and State Tower.
Pictures of interior through gaps/holes in the corrugated iron or wall:
Best point for viewing is the car park of State Tower:
Further reading and background information:
http://seatheater.blogspot.com/2009/08/prince-theater-bangkok-thailand.html "However, before you get your hopes up, be forewarned that in its present
state the showing of films is only done to provide a faint light source
for the men enjoying themselves on the inside."
Update: now a hotel.
Pak Nam Rama ปากน้ำราม่า in Samut Prakarn
An accidental find, I drove past on Sukhumvit by bus or car and noticed a large building that looked like a cinema, requiring further research on a separate trip.
13°36'07.5"N 100°35'52.8"E = 13.602083, 100.598000
About 50 m east of Sukhumvit road, near BTS E19 Pak Nam (station complete 22nov2017 but not open to public).
All openings closed and locked, I couldn't see a way to get in. The area around the cinema is freely accessible and used as paid parking.
No article in http://seatheater.blogspot.com/search/label/Thailand - Samut Prakarn but mentioned three times with pictures (search for "Pak Nam Rama").
Update: interesting article https://www.pressreader.com/hong-kong/design-anthology/20191201/283197265199780?fbclid=IwAR01Z15Wbbolcnc-6k6AgiD9yG2KSbmVeTggwyh7nD6Nk3oWvMQF5ATxawY
Thailand’s Movie Theatres Relics, Ruins and the Romance of Escape by Philip Jablon
https://www.riverbooksbk.com/index.php/thailand-s-movie-theatres-detail.html
Update: https://coconuts.co/bangkok/features/loved-forgotten-abandoned-thailands-cinemas-once-ruled-the-kingdom-photos/
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Blog about sightseeing, public transport and gay life in Thailand. Not politically correct. May contain explicit description of homosexual activities and strong language as a stylistic means. If that offends you, you can go here: http://www.imbecile.me/
Thursday, 30 November 2017
Monday, 27 November 2017
Aircraft used as decoration (4)
Aircraft used as decoration (4)
Part of fuselage on top of a building that belongs to a scrap metal company, eastern side of hwy 32 km 44+800, Ayutthaya province near Ang Thong province, next to กุ่ยโภชนา Guy Phochana restaurant. Visited 17jul2016.
14.5388286,100.5034689 = 14°32'19.8"N 100°30'12.5"E
Aerial pictures by a friend's drone:

Hwy 32 and giant km marker as entrance to religious place with giant monk statue อุทยานหลวงปู่ทวด Uthayan Luang Pho Tuat on right side of picture, across highway:

Picture from ground level

Another Boeing 747 in Nakon Pathom province (20jul2016).
14°02'21.3"N 100°05'38.9"E = 14.039250, 100.094150
Hwy 346 T-junction with hwy 375 east of Kamphaeng Saen. Picture by a friend's drone:

Picture from hwy 375:
Another Boeing 747 at Airplane Park Korat = Boeing Land Korat.
Spotted driving past: Sukhumvit road near U-Tapao airport,
Entrance Flying Navy Royal Thai Navy กองการบินทหารเรือ
12°41'43.9"N 100°59'41.0"E = 12.695513, 100.994734
rare cases of flying airplane on google maps satellite image:
https://www.google.co.th/maps/@13.5312829,100.2630846,315m/data=!3m1!1e3
(Phra Pothisat Kuan Im Park อุทยานพระโพธิสัตว์กวนอิม in Samut Sakhon)
https://www.google.co.th/maps/@14.6208406,101.0268386,799m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
(Saraburi proince, Kaeng Koi district)
previous parts in this series:
http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/09/airplane-construction-kit-in-pattaya-on.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2016/12/aircraft-used-as-decoration-5-airplane.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/10/aircraft-used-as-decoration-3.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/05/aircraft-used-as-decoration-2.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/01/aircraft-used-as-decoration-1.html
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
Part of fuselage on top of a building that belongs to a scrap metal company, eastern side of hwy 32 km 44+800, Ayutthaya province near Ang Thong province, next to กุ่ยโภชนา Guy Phochana restaurant. Visited 17jul2016.
14.5388286,100.5034689 = 14°32'19.8"N 100°30'12.5"E
Aerial pictures by a friend's drone:
Hwy 32 and giant km marker as entrance to religious place with giant monk statue อุทยานหลวงปู่ทวด Uthayan Luang Pho Tuat on right side of picture, across highway:
Picture from ground level
Another Boeing 747 in Nakon Pathom province (20jul2016).
14°02'21.3"N 100°05'38.9"E = 14.039250, 100.094150
Hwy 346 T-junction with hwy 375 east of Kamphaeng Saen. Picture by a friend's drone:
Picture from hwy 375:
Another Boeing 747 at Airplane Park Korat = Boeing Land Korat.
Spotted driving past: Sukhumvit road near U-Tapao airport,
Entrance Flying Navy Royal Thai Navy กองการบินทหารเรือ
12°41'43.9"N 100°59'41.0"E = 12.695513, 100.994734
rare cases of flying airplane on google maps satellite image:
https://www.google.co.th/maps/@13.5312829,100.2630846,315m/data=!3m1!1e3
(Phra Pothisat Kuan Im Park อุทยานพระโพธิสัตว์กวนอิม in Samut Sakhon)
https://www.google.co.th/maps/@14.6208406,101.0268386,799m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
(Saraburi proince, Kaeng Koi district)
previous parts in this series:
http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/09/airplane-construction-kit-in-pattaya-on.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2016/12/aircraft-used-as-decoration-5-airplane.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/10/aircraft-used-as-decoration-3.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/05/aircraft-used-as-decoration-2.html
http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/01/aircraft-used-as-decoration-1.html
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Friday, 24 November 2017
Dating Thai boys (62) Money problems
Dating Thai boys (62) Money problems
I'm just two weeks back in Thailand, and already 4 noteworthy cases of money requests. Chats from Line or facebook. In chronological order with my translations and comments and explanations in [].
Lek Samut Prakan 500 mobile phone
[Fri 27oct2017]
19:19 Lek SP มาไทยวันไหน
What day do you come to Thailand?
21:29 Christian 4 [November 4th]
21:30 Lek SP
ชื้อของฝากมาด้วยน่ะที่รัก Can you bring a gift for me, darling?
21:31 Lek SP รุ้ไหม Do you know? [I can’t make sense of this.]
2017.10.30 Monday
02:03 Christian ของหวานที่เยอรมันดีๆ We have good
sweets in Germany.
02:03 Christian จะพาไห้เล็ก I will bring some for
you.
02:12 Lek SP
เล็กอยากได้มือถือเครื่องใหม่ ของเล็กเสียแล้วตอนนี้เล็กใช้ของพี่อยู่เลย I
want a new mobile phone. My phone broke and now I’m using a friend’s phone.
02:12 Lek SP Stickers
I read the message, but haven’t replied yet. Offer a 500 THB
contribution (cash when we meet, not online!) for purchase of a new phone? While I was pondering how to reply, three weeks later the boy messaged me on hornet, then moved to Line, with change of subject:
2017.11.19 Sunday
2017.11.19 Sunday
17:36 Christian Photos [sightseeing in Ayutthaya]
17:36 Christian Photos [sightseeing in Ayutthaya]
17:36 Christian เที่ยวอยุธยา sightseeing in Ayutthaya
17:37 Lek SP เมือไหนจะมาหา When will you come to see me?
17:37 Christian วันอังคารสดวกมั้ย Is Tuesday convenient?17:37 Lek SP โอเค Okay.
17:36 Christian Photos [sightseeing in Ayutthaya]
17:36 Christian เที่ยวอยุธยา sightseeing in Ayutthaya
17:37 Lek SP เมือไหนจะมาหา When will you come to see me?
17:37 Christian วันอังคารสดวกมั้ย Is Tuesday convenient?17:37 Lek SP โอเค Okay.
17:40 Christian วันจันมร์ผมไม่ว่าง I'm not free on Monday.
17:40 Lek SP รอน่ะ I will wait.
17:40 Christian วันอังคารคุณทำงานรึ Do you work on Tuesday?
17:41 Lek SP ไม่ทำ Nothing.
17:41 Lek SP ว่าง I'm free.
17:45 Christian Stickers
[continues general chat, details about meeting]
17:40 Lek SP รอน่ะ I will wait.
17:40 Christian วันอังคารคุณทำงานรึ Do you work on Tuesday?
17:41 Lek SP ไม่ทำ Nothing.
17:41 Lek SP ว่าง I'm free.
17:45 Christian Stickers
[continues general chat, details about meeting]
And indeed, we would meet on Tuesday, no request for money or mobile phone, and all fine in bed!
Top Sakaew travel from Sakaew to Bangkok
Top Sakaew (his hometown) = Top Suk 62 (when in Bangkok, stays in Sukhumvit Soi 62) must be at least bisexual, otherwise I cannot explain the
good activity in bed. Was my favorite boy in 2015, but then dropped a bit, and
long time away from Bangkok, and my messages read but no reply (I think he has a girlfriend now and prefers pussy to dick).
Nov 5th, 3:32am
Christian ผมอยู่กทม ท๊อปอยู่ไหนครับ I’m in Bangkok.
Where are you?
Sat 4:56pm Christian Hello
Mon 9:05pm Christian Hello
Christian ผมอยู่กทม ท๊อปอยู่ไหนครับ I’m in Bangkok.
Where are you?
Top ยุบ้านที่สระแก้วคับ I’m home in Sakaew.
Top ทำรัยยุคับสบายดีมั้ยคับ What are you
doing? How are you?
Christian สบายดี คิดถึง I’m fine. Miss you.
Top อยากไปหายุแต่ไม่มีตังขึ้นไปหาอ่ะ I want
to go to see you but I don’t have money.
Top ส่งตังมาดิผมจะขึ้นไปหา Send money and I
will go to see you.
Top ชอบผมจริงใจต้องกล้าหน่อย If you really like me, you will help me.
Let this rest and think about a reply.
2:08pm [Sat 18nov2017)
นั่งรถไฟสระแก้วหัวลำโพง
ผมจะไห้ค่ารถและไปรับที่สถานีรถไฟ Come by train from Sakaew to Hua
Lampong. I will refund the cost [40 THB 3rd class to 183 THB 1st class] and
pick you up in Hua Lampong.
Some day or another he will be in Bangkok, and then we can
meet again. Just refuse all requests to online money and wait.
M Uttaradit 1000 for rent
Very cute and well-mannered, can read the clock and maps and
form a full correct sentence in Thai (but no English). I tried with him 3
times, in 2014, 2015, 2017 and it didn’t work out in bed, he just is not into
me. Then suddenly, months after we last met:
Fri 1:56pm [17nov2017]
M ตอนนี้ฉันเดือดร้อนมากเลย I’m having a big
problem now.
M ขอยืมเงินจ่ายค่าหอสัก1000บาทได้ไหม
Can I borrow 1000 THB to pay rent for my room please?
M ไม่งั้นเจ้าของหอจะมาล็อคห้องฉัน If I
can’t pay, my landlord will lock me out.
[Read instantly, then think about a reply. We had the same
long time ago, suddenly out of the blue asking to borrow money.]
Fri 3:53pm
Christian เมื่อมีความสุขลืมผม เมื่อมีปัญหาจำได้
เพื่อนแบบนี้ไม่เอา In good times you forget me, and when you have a
problem you remember me. I don’t want friends like this.
M ครับ Krap.
M งั้นก็ลบผมทิ้งได้เลย Then we finish.
M นายไปเที่ยวนายก็ยีงไม่เคยชวนผม You travel
everywhere but you never invite me.
M ขอโทดละกันครับ Sorry.
M บาย Bye.
Hours later I'm still pondering if I should reply and what, but on 20nov2017 I have a look at the chat again, "You can't reply to this conversation" (facebook's way to say he blocked me on messenger) and "Content not available" when I try to look at his facebook (facebook's way to say he blocked me on facebook).
Gus Thonburi 2000 for rent
Hours later I'm still pondering if I should reply and what, but on 20nov2017 I have a look at the chat again, "You can't reply to this conversation" (facebook's way to say he blocked me on messenger) and "Content not available" when I try to look at his facebook (facebook's way to say he blocked me on facebook).
Gus Thonburi 2000 for rent
We exchanged interested looks in Sake disco a few times, now (Fri17nov2017) finally say hello and exchange Line.
Sat18nov2017
[general chat omitted]
11:48 Gus Thonburi ม่ได้ทำคับ
I don’t work.
11:48 Christian เรียนหรือ Do you study?
11:49 Gus Thonburi ไม่ได้เรียนคับ
I don’t study.
11:49 Gus Thonburi หาสมัครงานอยุคับ
I’m looking for work.
11:49 Gus Thonburi
เเต่ช่วงนี้เต้มไปหมดเรย But now there is no work.
11:50 Christian ผมเป็นนักเคมี ตอนนี้เที่ยวเมืองไทย4เดือน I’m a
chemist, but now I’m in Thailand for holiday for 4 months.
11:50 Gus Thonburi
ค่าห้องที่เก่ายังม่ได้จ่ายเรยขาดอยุ2000 My rent is due and I’m still
lacking 2000 THB.
11:50 Gus Thonburi ม่รุ้จะหาที่ไหน
I don’t know where to get it.
11:51 Gus Thonburi เครียดมากเรยคับ
I’m in a quandary.
11:51 Gus Thonburi คับ Krap.
11:51 Gus Thonburi ทานข้าวยังคับ
Have you eaten yet?
11:52 Christian ทานแล้ว Have you eaten?
11:52 Gus Thonburi คบ Krap.
11:52 Gus Thonburi คับ Krap.
11:52 Gus Thonburi ทำไร What
have you eaten?
11:52 Gus Thonburi คับ Krap.
11:53 Christian อยู่ห้อง เล่นเน็ด I’m in my room.
Play internet.
11:53 Gus Thonburi ออ Oh.
11:53 Gus Thonburi คับ Krap.
11:53 Gus Thonburi Stickers
11:55 Christian กัสกำลังทำอะไร What are you
doing?
11:55 Gus Thonburi นอนเครียดๆๆ
I’m worrying [about rent].
11:55 Gus Thonburi คับ Krap.
11:56 Gus Thonburi
จะหาตังจากไหนมาจ่ายค่าห้องเช่าที่เคยอยุเดือนที่เเร้ว Where can I get
money to pay this month’s rent?
11:56 Gus Thonburi ต้องหาไปจ่ายเขา2000
I need 2000 THB.
11:56 Gus Thonburi ไม่รุ้จะหาที่ไหน
I don’t know where I can get it.
11:57 Christian ผมไม่รู้เหมือนกัน I don’t know
either.
11:58 Gus Thonburi คับ Krap.
[general chat continues]
Going to disco on Friday and having no money for rent on Saturday is inconsistent. Let it rest, we will meet again in the disco and with a bit of luck I can take him home directly. That avoids space-time confusion when setting up a meeting.
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
Tuesday, 21 November 2017
Wat Sam Pran in Nakhon Pathom province
Wat Sam Pran in Nakhon Pathom province
I have been to Wat Sam Pran วัดสามพราน several times (alone, with a Thai friend, with Farang friends, i.a. 27nov2014, 24apr2016, 12mar2017) asking to get in and climb the up to the roof, but staff wouldn't let me. http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/12/bare-feet-through-bat-shit.html


On last visit 12mar2017, with Farang friend with drone, we finally got in and up, and "bare feet through bat shit" turned out to be true.
General rant about Thai character:
Nobody wants to commit to anything or take responsibility, everyone refers to his superior, or will tell lies or bullshit to pacify you. As I wrote before (link above):
The tower will be open some time, I asked three people and got four different answers: among them New Year, Father's day and April 1-7.
I am susceptible to this kind of bullshit: "Oh it's closed today? I will come back next year. Thank you." but FF is not: "You don't have the key for the door? Then get the person who has the key!" and after referring us from one staff to the other, they finally realized they are not going to get rid of us, or it will be less work to let us in than trying to get rid of us, and finally the door was opened!
Two staff accompanied us all the way up, bare feet through bat shit, and pigeon shit, that might be the reason for the reluctance to let people in.

From 3rd floor up abandoned:

And on top floor a pigeon infestation:

We went up the stairs in the tower (there is an elevator, but it's out of order). The lower door to the spiral dragon was locked:

But from top floor you can enter:

Rooftop:



There is misinformation about accessibility in books (Bangkok off the grid, insert page number when I find it) and on the internet http://www.richardbarrow.com/2017/02/day-trip-to-the-giant-dragon-in-nakhon-pathom/ and I replied accordingly:
ChristianPFC March 12, 2017 The giant dragon and tower are NOT open to public. I went today and showed pictures from this post, and people remembered, but only with a lot of patience, luck and social skills of a Farang friend (I have been 3 times already since 2013 and every time got a different story why it’s not open, and different information when it will be open) we finally got in (after 1 hour waiting and talking with various people, each of them rejecting responsibility).
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
I have been to Wat Sam Pran วัดสามพราน several times (alone, with a Thai friend, with Farang friends, i.a. 27nov2014, 24apr2016, 12mar2017) asking to get in and climb the up to the roof, but staff wouldn't let me. http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/12/bare-feet-through-bat-shit.html
On last visit 12mar2017, with Farang friend with drone, we finally got in and up, and "bare feet through bat shit" turned out to be true.
General rant about Thai character:
Nobody wants to commit to anything or take responsibility, everyone refers to his superior, or will tell lies or bullshit to pacify you. As I wrote before (link above):
The tower will be open some time, I asked three people and got four different answers: among them New Year, Father's day and April 1-7.
I am susceptible to this kind of bullshit: "Oh it's closed today? I will come back next year. Thank you." but FF is not: "You don't have the key for the door? Then get the person who has the key!" and after referring us from one staff to the other, they finally realized they are not going to get rid of us, or it will be less work to let us in than trying to get rid of us, and finally the door was opened!
Two staff accompanied us all the way up, bare feet through bat shit, and pigeon shit, that might be the reason for the reluctance to let people in.
From 3rd floor up abandoned:
And on top floor a pigeon infestation:
We went up the stairs in the tower (there is an elevator, but it's out of order). The lower door to the spiral dragon was locked:
But from top floor you can enter:
Rooftop:
There is misinformation about accessibility in books (Bangkok off the grid, insert page number when I find it) and on the internet http://www.richardbarrow.com/2017/02/day-trip-to-the-giant-dragon-in-nakhon-pathom/ and I replied accordingly:
ChristianPFC March 12, 2017 The giant dragon and tower are NOT open to public. I went today and showed pictures from this post, and people remembered, but only with a lot of patience, luck and social skills of a Farang friend (I have been 3 times already since 2013 and every time got a different story why it’s not open, and different information when it will be open) we finally got in (after 1 hour waiting and talking with various people, each of them rejecting responsibility).
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
Saturday, 18 November 2017
Scooting dogs
Scooting dogs
Beside the miracle of canine reproduction http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/01/joined-at-hip.html,
I observed scooting dogs and a friend sent me a video of a wanking dog.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scooting
Scooting When a dog sits and pulls itself around with its front legs in an effort to scratch an itchy butt hole. It's an act that is often unexpected and hilarious (if it's not on your rug.)
Circular scooting dog:
This looks more like it is sliding for for fun and not linear scooting:
from: https://www.facebook.com/bulldogsbroficial/videos/282091538966062/
Wanking dog:
from: sent by a friend on Line
And more funny dog videos:
from: https://www.facebook.com/thedodosite/videos/1336482969819708/
from: https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/3321301431226226/
No animals were harmed for making this post except for the chicken and pork the author consumed.
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC except videos with links
Beside the miracle of canine reproduction http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/01/joined-at-hip.html,
I observed scooting dogs and a friend sent me a video of a wanking dog.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scooting
Scooting When a dog sits and pulls itself around with its front legs in an effort to scratch an itchy butt hole. It's an act that is often unexpected and hilarious (if it's not on your rug.)
Circular scooting dog:
This looks more like it is sliding for for fun and not linear scooting:
Wanking dog:
And more funny dog videos:
No animals were harmed for making this post except for the chicken and pork the author consumed.
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC except videos with links
Wednesday, 15 November 2017
Pattaya Fri 10nov2017
Pattaya Fri 10nov2017
A farang friend goes by his own car and invites me, and with
only 2 hours travel time instead of 4 with public transports (and 2 changes!),
one night in Pattaya is viable.
Not just one, but two lovely ginger cats opposite Eros! The trip a success before I
even set foot in a bar. Maybe I should stop pursuing boys and go and work in an animal shelter?
Nice Boys 20:11-48, orange juice (no pineapple juice
available) 150 THB. 9 boys and 2 customers, and the cutest boy #9 offed shortly
after I enter. 3 boys have a cigarette behind their ear, a turn-off. One customer
smokes. I would take #6 and #30 for free. 10 boys and 7 customers when I leave.
Power Boys 20:58-21:25, hot tea 145 THB and Leo beer
boy drink 190 THB. Only 5 boys and 1 customer, but one of the boys is my
current favorite and he saw me, so it would be rude not to enter and invite him
for a drink and a grope and a tip 100 THB, but no off today. One boy offed
during my stay, maximum 2 customers.
Chat with Farang and Thai friends.
Winner Boys 21:30-22:06, pineapple juice 79 THB. Over
12 boys and about 10 customers, half of the boys busy with customers. Boys in
towels (some without underwear underneath). #3 Add, #7 and #16 are worth a
second look.
Someone tried to break into closed Krazy Dragon:
To Boystown. The entire Soi 13/3
is now a construction site (new sewers) but bar operation continues.
However, you have to go through/over mud:
Kawaii 22:25-50, hot tea 150 THB. 7 boys 1 customer
to 8 boys 1 customer. Most of the boys I remember from before.
Surprisingly, Kawaii did reopen after renovation (only minor
changes inside and outside, I would barely have noticed if I hadn’t known).
Toy Boys 23:00-15, pj 230 THB. Full of boys and customers.
Slow rotation. #3 Tor and one other boy cute. Individual white underwear and
bare feet.
Have a look in Prisma and Cupidol but skip for
low number of boys (<10 and none sticks out). In passing BoysBoysBoys,
I see they still have boys in jeans on stage, I will not set food in this bar
before everyone is in underwear.
With no clear hit and upcoming disco visit, I didn’t off a
boy.
Jomtien Complex 00:00-10 Busy with boys and
customers, but no boy my type. On the beach (south of construction site) groups
of people, some seem to be available.
Sinlapin Esan ศิลปินอีสาน disco 01:12-02:02.
Translation from Thai2English:
ศิลปิน sĭn-lá-bpin (Noun, of Pali/Sanskrit origin) artist
อีสาน ee săan (Noun, of Pali/Sanskrit origin) Isaan (the north-eastern region of Thailand)
A pretty new place (on google satellite view there is only field) at
Walking distance to Sunee and Tuk-Com!
Has been mentioned on gaythailand http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11436-superstar-esan-isaan-club-south-pattaya/
and here what I posted there:
By chance (invitation by a friend, else I would not have gone, not even
known about this place) I went on Fri 10nov2017 about 1 to 2 am. Music
level is bearable without earplugs, and real chairs and tables are nice,
but unfortunately smoking is allowed. Beware of staff in the toilet,
massaging your back (when you wash your hands, it used to be when you
pee years ago) and handing you towel and expecting tips. This is a mixed
venue, during our stay I didn't see anyone gay, so I left and walked
back to Sunee (conveniently close).
Read between the lines: Not my style, I won't be back. I will only go to disco if there is a chance for a hook-up.
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
Sunday, 12 November 2017
Moving room in Bangkok
Moving room in Bangkok
In Sep 2016, there was a lucky coincidence: trip to Germany to stay 5 weeks (Sep-Oct) on the day my rent contract runs out, some interesting job offers in Germany, and a Thai friend moved in near my place and allowed me to store my stuff in his room for free.
Thus I give up my room and move all my stuff into my Thai friend’s place, which takes over 2 days packing and moving (about 200 kg, of which about 50 kg books, one refrigerator, one heavy wooden table; from 3rd floor to ground level, about 200 m along the road at times when there is little traffic, and up to 3rd floor).
I didn’t get a job in Germany. On my return in Oct 2016, stay at another friend’s place for free and look for a new room (while I was happy with my old room, several friends say I can probably get something similar for cheaper).
Some things to watch out when looking for a room: convenience store nearby (every now and then I run out of toast or butter, and then wake up in the morning and have to go to buy some to have breakfast), restaurants nearby, public transport nearby, mocy taxi not important for me but maybe for others, no flooding during rainy season, no soi dogs, no construction sites.
Charges for electricity, water, WiFi. With contract with electricity company, you pay between 3.5 and 4 THB/kWh, but landlords often charge 7. Water is 18 THB/m3, but landlords often have a minimum charge of 100 or more. WiFi is free in some places, others charge 500 per month which is outrageous considering I had a contract for 499 in 2013.
Another point that would have to be considered is travelling: I have several friends in Sathorn area who I can visit on foot, as well as walking to/from Silom, the money I save in rent I would spend on public transport.
I have a look at various places in various areas: (continuation of
http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/05/looking-for-room-in-sathorn.html)
A surprising observation from various places: wide hallway but small rooms.
Grand Mandarin Residence Ladprao Soi 130
I once went to see a boy who lives there, and the rooms are fine and cheaper than in Sathorn (4500 + 590 WiFi vs 8000 THB with WiFi included). But on the day when I wanted to see the rooms (I want a room with window north or west so I don’t have the sun in the morning and during day), there was none available.
Baan Rajaprarop บ้านราชปรารภ near Victory Monument
I had a look at this already in 2014, and now back again. Tucked away in a dead end (I like quiet), but near Victory Monument and Santhipap park. At 7000 a good deal, window north, but at the end I’m indecisive. And there is a manned reception, which means someone sees every boy I take back to my room which I don’t like.
39 Place 39 เพลส Soi Kraisi off Soi Sri Bamphen
Another place that I looked at in 2014 and that almost made it. Dead end side road means quiet. Nice entrance area.
Ask at reception to see a room. If that woman thinks as slowly as she walks and speaks, we will need a while.
Window northward, with view of Q House Lumpini (I like the architecture). Balcony with stainless steel kitchen table (awesome, so I can have all my food storage, preparation, consumption on the balcony). A bit small for 7000, and when looking at the empty room I did not know how I would put all my stuff in.
I want to check the aircon (I can’t sleep with noisy aircon), but the woman from reception does not have the remote control. The owner has it, and I should come back tomorrow.
Go again the following day, and call from the main door to be let in: booked out. I assume woman at reception gets paid regardless of the room is occupied or not, and if it starts with a customer wanting to test the aircon, there is more trouble ahead.
Lumpini Place Rama4 – Sathorn ลุมพินี เพลส พระราม4-สาทร
An awesome room for 12,000, balcony with view of pool (and use of pool as well, and the pool is in the shade most of the day). But I have no use for separate kitchen (all food I prepare is toast and fruit), it would be a waste of money.
Out of 30 days per month I spend only 20 in Bangkok, and then 10 days out all day, and less than 5 visitors. I need a room only for the 3 s: sleep shower sex.
Along Sri Bam Pen road
Asking wherever I see a sign “room for rent” (most of them in Thai), and at one place the manager (whom I do not recognize) asks me “Last year you stayed in …, why don’t you like it there any more?”. Surprised how she remembers me and can place me.
Sri Bam Pen Apartment SBPA
At the end, settle in Sri Bam Pen Apartment. I stayed there in Dec 2010 to Feb 2011 for 4000, and even now after a price rise to 4800, it’s good value for money considering size and location (but not standard).
I made the mistake of going there with a Thai friend, and when I’m with someone I often mess things up. While the sound of the aircon was bearable during day (with other noise mixed in), during night it was too loud. The window goes east, I have the rising sun in my room. Only cold water in shower. Construction work in the building. No WiFi. How could I miss all these? When I have someone around me who interferes in my activities, my brain does not work well.
Furniture is spartan, I would have to buy door mat, dustbin, table, chair, all of which was supplied in my previous place.
While the charge for electricity is reasonable at 5.5 THB/kWh, charging a flat fee for water of 100 THB is not (I use 1 m3 per month which cost me 18 THB in my previous place). Now that there is no dustbin, and I pay 100 for water anyway, I can as well rinse down all my organic waste (most of my waste is seeds and peels from cutting fruit; the little paper and plastic I can take out separately) down the sink. It turned out not to be a good idea, after some days it drains slower because it’s partially blocked, but I could dissolve the block with soda (caustic soda 400 g for 18 THB, cheaper than drain cleaner).
I spotted several cute boys in and out of SBPA, and some months later a BFC stayed there: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/05/dating-thai-boys-52-bfc4in2017-ton.html. But there are more things I don’t like: people sitting on stairs to smoke or telephone, or just to have a quiet moment (when sharing one room with a family). Reception is manned throughout, and even the person who distributes post knows me (one day there was a letter for me, and when I passed he called me to give it to me).
Nonetheless, the place is clean and well managed except for ants and cockroaches and pigeons all around. Now they have renovated rooms with hot water and modern aircon for 5500, which are a good deal (but still no WiFi!).
Live out of boxes for a month (I can bear it, but when I take a boy to my room I am worried he doesn’t like it), then look for a new place and move out. There is a big surprise: the written rent contract in English says 1 month, but the lady at reception tells me minimum rent time is 3 months, and having paid 2 months deposit there is nothing I can do. I put the room on craigslist and within about a month I find a new renter (who is gay and with whom I would become friends), so I can recover one month’s rent (and in the end save money, but the effort of two moves was not worth it).
Now it’s moving all my stuff again (down 5 floors, along the road, up to my new place) which takes two days.
Exhausting, and psychologically dragged me down for weeks (packing and putting into storage, then realizing I don't like the first room, and moving again).
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
In Sep 2016, there was a lucky coincidence: trip to Germany to stay 5 weeks (Sep-Oct) on the day my rent contract runs out, some interesting job offers in Germany, and a Thai friend moved in near my place and allowed me to store my stuff in his room for free.
Thus I give up my room and move all my stuff into my Thai friend’s place, which takes over 2 days packing and moving (about 200 kg, of which about 50 kg books, one refrigerator, one heavy wooden table; from 3rd floor to ground level, about 200 m along the road at times when there is little traffic, and up to 3rd floor).
I didn’t get a job in Germany. On my return in Oct 2016, stay at another friend’s place for free and look for a new room (while I was happy with my old room, several friends say I can probably get something similar for cheaper).
Some things to watch out when looking for a room: convenience store nearby (every now and then I run out of toast or butter, and then wake up in the morning and have to go to buy some to have breakfast), restaurants nearby, public transport nearby, mocy taxi not important for me but maybe for others, no flooding during rainy season, no soi dogs, no construction sites.
Charges for electricity, water, WiFi. With contract with electricity company, you pay between 3.5 and 4 THB/kWh, but landlords often charge 7. Water is 18 THB/m3, but landlords often have a minimum charge of 100 or more. WiFi is free in some places, others charge 500 per month which is outrageous considering I had a contract for 499 in 2013.
Another point that would have to be considered is travelling: I have several friends in Sathorn area who I can visit on foot, as well as walking to/from Silom, the money I save in rent I would spend on public transport.
I have a look at various places in various areas: (continuation of
http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/05/looking-for-room-in-sathorn.html)
A surprising observation from various places: wide hallway but small rooms.
Grand Mandarin Residence Ladprao Soi 130
I once went to see a boy who lives there, and the rooms are fine and cheaper than in Sathorn (4500 + 590 WiFi vs 8000 THB with WiFi included). But on the day when I wanted to see the rooms (I want a room with window north or west so I don’t have the sun in the morning and during day), there was none available.
Baan Rajaprarop บ้านราชปรารภ near Victory Monument
I had a look at this already in 2014, and now back again. Tucked away in a dead end (I like quiet), but near Victory Monument and Santhipap park. At 7000 a good deal, window north, but at the end I’m indecisive. And there is a manned reception, which means someone sees every boy I take back to my room which I don’t like.
39 Place 39 เพลส Soi Kraisi off Soi Sri Bamphen
Another place that I looked at in 2014 and that almost made it. Dead end side road means quiet. Nice entrance area.
Ask at reception to see a room. If that woman thinks as slowly as she walks and speaks, we will need a while.
Window northward, with view of Q House Lumpini (I like the architecture). Balcony with stainless steel kitchen table (awesome, so I can have all my food storage, preparation, consumption on the balcony). A bit small for 7000, and when looking at the empty room I did not know how I would put all my stuff in.
I want to check the aircon (I can’t sleep with noisy aircon), but the woman from reception does not have the remote control. The owner has it, and I should come back tomorrow.
Go again the following day, and call from the main door to be let in: booked out. I assume woman at reception gets paid regardless of the room is occupied or not, and if it starts with a customer wanting to test the aircon, there is more trouble ahead.
Lumpini Place Rama4 – Sathorn ลุมพินี เพลส พระราม4-สาทร
An awesome room for 12,000, balcony with view of pool (and use of pool as well, and the pool is in the shade most of the day). But I have no use for separate kitchen (all food I prepare is toast and fruit), it would be a waste of money.
Out of 30 days per month I spend only 20 in Bangkok, and then 10 days out all day, and less than 5 visitors. I need a room only for the 3 s: sleep shower sex.
Along Sri Bam Pen road
Asking wherever I see a sign “room for rent” (most of them in Thai), and at one place the manager (whom I do not recognize) asks me “Last year you stayed in …, why don’t you like it there any more?”. Surprised how she remembers me and can place me.
Sri Bam Pen Apartment SBPA
At the end, settle in Sri Bam Pen Apartment. I stayed there in Dec 2010 to Feb 2011 for 4000, and even now after a price rise to 4800, it’s good value for money considering size and location (but not standard).
I made the mistake of going there with a Thai friend, and when I’m with someone I often mess things up. While the sound of the aircon was bearable during day (with other noise mixed in), during night it was too loud. The window goes east, I have the rising sun in my room. Only cold water in shower. Construction work in the building. No WiFi. How could I miss all these? When I have someone around me who interferes in my activities, my brain does not work well.
Furniture is spartan, I would have to buy door mat, dustbin, table, chair, all of which was supplied in my previous place.
While the charge for electricity is reasonable at 5.5 THB/kWh, charging a flat fee for water of 100 THB is not (I use 1 m3 per month which cost me 18 THB in my previous place). Now that there is no dustbin, and I pay 100 for water anyway, I can as well rinse down all my organic waste (most of my waste is seeds and peels from cutting fruit; the little paper and plastic I can take out separately) down the sink. It turned out not to be a good idea, after some days it drains slower because it’s partially blocked, but I could dissolve the block with soda (caustic soda 400 g for 18 THB, cheaper than drain cleaner).
I spotted several cute boys in and out of SBPA, and some months later a BFC stayed there: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/05/dating-thai-boys-52-bfc4in2017-ton.html. But there are more things I don’t like: people sitting on stairs to smoke or telephone, or just to have a quiet moment (when sharing one room with a family). Reception is manned throughout, and even the person who distributes post knows me (one day there was a letter for me, and when I passed he called me to give it to me).
Nonetheless, the place is clean and well managed except for ants and cockroaches and pigeons all around. Now they have renovated rooms with hot water and modern aircon for 5500, which are a good deal (but still no WiFi!).
Live out of boxes for a month (I can bear it, but when I take a boy to my room I am worried he doesn’t like it), then look for a new place and move out. There is a big surprise: the written rent contract in English says 1 month, but the lady at reception tells me minimum rent time is 3 months, and having paid 2 months deposit there is nothing I can do. I put the room on craigslist and within about a month I find a new renter (who is gay and with whom I would become friends), so I can recover one month’s rent (and in the end save money, but the effort of two moves was not worth it).
Now it’s moving all my stuff again (down 5 floors, along the road, up to my new place) which takes two days.
Exhausting, and psychologically dragged me down for weeks (packing and putting into storage, then realizing I don't like the first room, and moving again).
Copyright 2017 ChristianPFC
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