Tuesday, 24 September 2013

Park at BTS Sathorn Saturday 21.09.2013

Park at BTS Sathorn Saturday 21.09.2013

(previous post: Wat Sangkhathan)

On the river boat, we pass a bridge under construction for the MRT blue line.

bridge under construction over Chao Phra Ya for MRT blue line

At Sathorn pier, I stroll around. There is a park next to the BTS station. I spot a group of boys (age around 15 estimated and confirmed by asking two of them) sitting and drinking. I make a detour to walk past them. Still over 5 meters away, one of them says hello to me and raises the cup. I join them for a chat. Immediately, I notice a flask of Ceza syrup and an empty blister pack of medicine and empty capsules on the floor. I drink only small sips of the coke from the shared cup, as I don’t know what they put in it and which effect this will have on my body.

They speak a few sentences of English, most of our conversation is in Thai. They want to know where I am going (Sathorn Soi 1) and offer me a ride on a motorbike for 50 Baht. I accept. In the following conversation, numbers between 50 and 500 Baht are were asked for, but I do not increase my offer. Anyway, I want to have a chat first and listen to them talking with each other and find out what they put into the coke.

Among seven, they were sharing (as far as I could see):
Coke Big 1.5 l with ice,
Ceza syrup 60 ml (each 5 ml contains Cetirizine hydrochloride 5 mg Catergory: Antihistamic),
Tramadol HCl 50 mg (about 10 capsules)
Anyone have any idea what this is good for?

They want to know about my work, so I show them pictures of me at work that I took with my phone. They scroll through the pictures on my phone and I worry what to say when they reach pictures of boys from Saranrom in a short time hotel that would require further explanation. But luckily, just one picture before, they ask me who this is on the picture (a boy and I fully clothed), I use this opportunity to take my phone back before we get to pictures that would require explanation. That leaves me a choice: either put those pictures in a separate folder to avoid similar situations or keep them and make a plan to use them to my advantage.

They are eager to give me their phone numbers and facebook profiles and invite me to join them again. Quite different from boys in my area, where I am more or less met with polite disinterest (but the circumstances there are different).

They are leaving, I get on the motorbike. I insist on wearing a crash helmet, so we drive to the boy’s place (without helmet) and pick up two helmets for the longer part of the ride to Sathorn Soi 1. No problem to bring a farang back to his place (I wait outside on the motorbike while he gets the helmets). Arrive in Soi 1 at 18:00. I give the boy 100 Baht (instead of 50 as agreed at the park), many thanks and wais. Walk along Soi 1 to Babylon Sauna.

(following post: Babylon Sauna)

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Soi Twilight The Zeus Sunday 22.09.2013

Soi Twilight The Zeus Sunday 22.09.2013

After all the events on Saturday, I stay in my room to play internet on Sunday afternoon. Then I have a stroll to my local wat and shopping center, and take the bus to Sam Yan (Wat Hua Lampong). Stroll along Rama 4 road and through Lumpini park to meet a friend in Soi Ngam Duplee. We have dinner and then take taxi to Soi Twilight.

New gogo bar "The Zeus". We enter 22:10. There are few other customers. It is too cold and the music is too loud. The cushion on the seat is lose and overlaps, you have to be carefull when you move on your seat not to fall down. The bathroom is very simple. There are about 15 boys, one is offable, another one or two I would take for free. One boy looks like he comes from Africa. All wear the same underwear, a style I can live with. Interesting to compare: it suits some boys well, it doesn't suit others. But I have the impression they are having decoys in their underwear. Not just a sock (that's easy to recognize), but something that imitates the shape. It even moves when boys rearrange their private parts. I would guess they used silicon dildos and cut them in half? Drinks are 300 Baht (water, beer). My friend leaves after half an hour, I stay until 23:00. 

Update: closed since Dec 2014

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Saranrom park Friday 20.09.2013

Saranrom park Friday 20.09.2013

Take taxi to Sanam Luang. Stroll around the night market. Arrive in Saranrom area 21:45. A poor start, less than 20 boys (estimated) in the entire area. I have dinner in City Walk. Go for a second round. More boys. A cars stops next to me and the driver chats me up. A Thai man, not at all my type, but in a profession related to mine. I get into his car, on the passenger seat, so we can have a chat (more comfortable than bending down to talk through the window). He drives us around the park and the palace a few times, trying to find a boy for me.

The first time I see Saranrom from a driver’s perspective. He says he pays 500 Baht for the boys. The windows of his cars are dark, you can’t look inside, but you can look outside. But this is not my style (letting boys come to the window to chat with them and have a closer look, furthermore I don’t know what he is up to), I prefer to walk. I indicate that I would like to continue alone. He stops in a quiet area and he asks if he can see my dick. After some hesitation, I let him open my belt and my pants and play with my dick. But when I offers me a blowjob, I have to refuse, there are limits of what I’m willing do to for German-Thai friendship. We exchange phone number and I hope we can meet again to go to a gay disco.

I continue on foot. Around 11 pm to midnight, it looks better then when I first came. Finally I see Eat again (whom I could not take last time because I went with – forgot name - already). Exactly what I was looking for! We take taxi to a short time hotel and have a nice time. Not much activity in bed, but a cute face, great body and good manners. Therefore, I can’t deny him the extra 100 Baht he is asking for (in addition to 500). There are boys who follow the line “you cum – we are done – you pay – I go”, not him. I was playing with a cat outside the short time hotel, he was waiting for me to look up to say goodbye again. Eat stays in Bang Sue and goes to Saranrom by taxi (100 Baht). That means, he could come to my place by taxi if I give him the fare? I will try next time, this would save me a lot of time.

Friday, 20 September 2013

Dating Thai boys (1) Boys I didn't meet

Dating Thai boys (1) Boys I didn't meet

Gayromeo 19.09.2013

It is raining softly in the evening, then stronger at night. ChristianPFC stays in and is online
on gayromeo. Here two conversations I had on gayromeo (slightly edited).
1. xxxxxx 19. Sep. 2013 - 22:26
how u?
i korn, bottom thai 25/165/55 and live near the donmuang airport
2. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 22:29
I am fine. Facepic?
3. xxxxxx 19. Sep. 2013 - 22:32
yes i hv can i send to your email? what address
4. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 22:32
no, here
5. xxxxxx 19. Sep. 2013 - 22:35
because im working now in the hospital , near the royal thai airforce and not hv picture in pc at office
6. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 – 22:36
Ok, you can send tomorrow.
ChristianPFC does not give out his email address unless you are a stunner. Been there, it didn't lead anywhere (giving out email address to get a facepic). ChristianPFC does not look on other websites for your facepic. Been there, it didn't lead anywhere. If you are not able to upload a facepic on gayromeo, then GO FUCK YOURSELF.

And another one:
1. ChristianPFC 16. Sep. 2013 - 20:01
Hello, can you send a facepic please?
ขอรูปหน้านะครับ (same in Thai)
2. Yyyyyyy 16. Sep. 2013 - 22:50
3. Yyyyyyy 16. Sep. 2013 - 22:51
4. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:32
Thank you. I stay in Bangkok, Lak Si. Where do you live?
5. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:46
Bang pa in at ayuthaya
6. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:46
I go to Bkk tomorrow
7. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:48
How long will you stay in Bangkok?
8. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:55
2 days and go to Cambodia to visit my parents
9. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:57
I will be in Bangkok this weekend, sightseeing during day. Are you Cambodian?
10. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:58
Yes I go to Cambodia on Sunday
11. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 18:58
Where are you?
12. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 19:02
I stay in Lak Si, near Don Mueang. If you come by train, there is a train station
in Lak Si, not far from my place.
13. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 19:02
Oh don't know about that
14. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 19:04
Where will you stay in Bangkok?
15. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 19:06
My friend rent room at lumpini
(no messages for 4 hours)

16. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:27
17. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:29
18. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:30
I go to Bkk tomorrow
19. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:38
I work tomorrow. What do you do tomorrow night?
20. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:40
Don't know
21. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:41
I want to find room for stay at night before I go to Cambodia
22. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:43
You wrote you stay with a friend in Lumpini?
23. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:44
Yes but tomorrow their parents visit them 3 days now I have a problem I don't know someone out of them
24. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:44
And their room not big
25. ChristianPFC 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:44
I see.
26. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:45
27. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:45
So what is my worry now
28. Yyyyyyy 19. Sep. 2013 - 23:48
If not I will go direct to Cambodia
I can see where this leads. But ChristianPFC is not a hotel. There are a few profiles on gayromeo whose owner I would invite to stay with me for 3 days without having met them them before, but yyyyyyy does not qualify. But it's comforting to know that Thais (or Cambodians in this case) have the same problems managing time and space and keeping agreements when they deal with each other.

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Thursday, 19 September 2013

Soi Twilight 18.09.2013 Hotmale, Classic

Soi Twilight 18.09.2013

A friend from Austria is in Bangkok, we meet for dinner at 18:30 and then hit the bars. During dinner, I see the first person who uses a punpun bike, on Surawong road. I rarely go to bars alone. I could go any day, but with a friend you can talk about the boys and exchange stories. Enter Hotmale 21:00. The coyote boys are in individual underwear, the other boys are in underwear provided by the bar (not my style, but it could be worse) and in sleeveless shirts. Shirts! If I had gone alone, I would have left. I don’t pay gogo bar prices to see boys in shirts. Third-hand information: the shirts come off after the first show. Coyote boy 03 is my type and he smiles at me when our views meet, I tip him 100 Baht and might come back to off him. The drink price has been raised to 320 Baht for soft drink (I remember 250 from less than two years ago and 300 a year ago). We leave about 22:00.

It’s show time, but we don’t want to watch the shows. We go to Classic boys, as there is sufficient time left before the show starts. Much better! Several boys are my type, and they being shirtless and wearing underwear of their choice certainly helps. I stay through the show (from memory: boys dancing, ladyboy lipsync, boys dancing, underwater, acrobatic fuck show). There are several boys I could have offed, 13 would be on top of my list, I tip him 100 Baht and might come back for him. Leave about 23:30.

Another stroll through Soi Twilight, second dinner and walk to bus stop at Sam Yan. When I pass Wat Hua Lampong, a Thai man Dan approaches me. After a few sentences, I remember him, I met him at the bus stop in April (?). He is a tourist guide in Silom area and lives in Rangsit. He is gay and has a sexual interest in me (in April he wanted to come to my room). He asks me to pay his bus ticket (8 Baht). Well, if it’s that important to him to ask me, I can hardly reject this request. I even let him keep the 4 Baht change, after he asks for it. From previous rides, from memory, I can generalize that bus 29 leaves from Sam Yan about midnight and then again about 1 am (I will go through my records for a full analysis of bus departure times).

Further observations:

There seems to be a migration of boys to Dream Boys (two boys I talked with recently moved to Dream Boys after working in other bars). The expected short time tip there is 2000 Baht. That seems to attract the boys, but then they don’t get offed there often and complain about lack of offs (third hand information).

The cute Vietnamese boy at Scorpion is still there. A friend who speaks basic Vietnamese has been there, bought a few drinks and was asked which boy he would like to take home. From that, I conclude that the offability depends on various factors: presence or absence of the owner, number of drinks you buy, your ability to speak Vietnamese, to start with. (I recently witnessed the cute Vietnamese boy conversing fluently in Thai with a Thai boy at the bar, but his English seems to be poor.)

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Wednesday, 18 September 2013

Saphan Kwai bars update 17.09.2013

Saphan Kwai bars update 17.09.2013

Abstract: went to Street, Be High and had a look into Charmming, all comfortable music level, cute boys and English speaking staff.

Tuesday, 17.09.2013

A Farang acquaintance Bob messages me in the morning to cancel a dinner invitation for the evening due to unexpected work commitments. That puts a Thai friend Yu on top of my list (with whom I have a date for the same evening, but this was already postponed twice from Sunday to Monday to Tuesday; I would have told him I am not free). He is free and we can meet at 7 pm in Central Ladprao.

After work, I go home to shower and change clothes. Call Yu, he doesn’t pick up. But as usual, I have backup plan. First, meet a grindr acquaintance Air who works close to the bus stop. After some confusion about his place of work, I find him and we have a chat. We will meet again some day at a time when he is free. Call Yu again, he doesn’t pick up. Switch to my backup plan, which is massage and chat and happy ending with a boy Bas whom I first met in Soi Twilight and who now works in Saphan Kwai area. Helas, he too doesn’t pick up his phone (update: he had a customer).

But I know where he works. I can’t see him outside and want to have dinner first. I spot a cute Thai boy on a table in a streetside restaurant. I am greeted by a lady (boy?) Carla and invited to her birthday party on the same table. There is a boy Bank as well in the group, whom I first met at Songkran in Soi Twilight and later saw in X-Size and who is on my wishlist! She shakes my hand and tickles my palm with her finger, which causes great mirth with the boys who witness it. (I still don’t know when and where it’s appropriate.)

After dinner, we walk to Pradipat Soi 20 (this is where most of the Saphan Kwai area gay bars are, I was there three years ago and wanted to go again anyway). The party continues at “Street” (สตรีท, the name of the bar is in such a horrible font in English that I had to check the name in Thai to confirm). We arrive about 21:30, there is one other group inside already. More alcohol, karaoke. To my great surprise, the music is at a comfortable level (I forgot to take my earplugs with me and was fearing the worst). The two cute boys in our group are slightly drunk and quiet, the two not so cute boys are drunk as well, but chatty and touchy (I am subjected to public display of affection – kissing and crotch grabbing and sitting on my lap). I take a walk outside to have a look at the other venues and a look inside Be High (a real gogo bar in that area, at 10 pm open and boys on stage, but no customers).

We leave and go to Carla’s place (she made hints about group sex). Her room has the perfect size for me (my current room is a bit too large) and is in a good location, but 8000 Baht per month seems to expensive. In the room, the boys go to toilet and Carla showers and changes clothes. No six-some. We leave and on the way to the main road, Carla asks me if I want any of the boys. I don’t say “Can I have Bank for 1000 Baht for short time, now?”, I just tell her that I think they are all drunk. At the main road Carla says goodbye. They take two taxis to Saphan Taksin / Rama 3 / Tawan Daeng (as far I could find out) for more drinking and karaoke. That’s more than 20 km away, are there no similar venues closer?

Suddenly I am left alone at 22:30. That suits me well, joining them would have been too far away, too late, too loud and not have lead anywhere closer to getting one of the two cute boys. I have a walk around in the area. There is a bar Kit Teung (คิดถึง) with some cute boys next to it. They obviously live in the house next to it and are drinking on the street. I see only male customers in Kit Teung, worth further investigation. Go to Charmming and have a look inside, there are customers, the music level is comfortable. I walk back to Soi 20 and come across a stall that sells sticky rice with mango (60 Baht, take away), that’s my first sticky rice with mango in this season.

I go to Be High. There are three boys, one on stage, one sitting near the stage and one sitting with a customer. They wear underwear that leaves the butt cheeks uncovered, not my style. I order orange juice (140 Baht; but this is not orange juice, it contains orange juice but is too sweet). Two boys approach me, both speak good English. One of them (Earth เอิร์ท) is cute. He later invites himself to sit with me and asks for a drink, which is fine as I wanted to talk with him anyway. Skin temperature check is positive. I ask him about short time hotels, there is one in walking distance.

So I off him (300 Baht). We walk to Pradipat Hotel (about 5 minutes). The short time room is 400 Baht (expensive, those in Saranrom area are 200 or 210). He has nice underwear! The TV in the room plays straight porn. Earth likes girls, but performs well in bed. Certainly no lack of activity! Hugging, stroking, kissing, sucking, nipple play, everything (I didn’t inquire if I can fuck him). But not as good as Dee from Super A. Skin temperature not perfect (I should have told him to take a hot shower). I tip him 1000 Baht for short time (I asked him in the bar what the expected tip is, and got a straight answer!), and even give him the additional 100 Baht he asks for because he really did his best.

Altogether 2100 Baht (two drinks at 140, 20 Baht tip in bar, 300 off fee, 400 hotel, 1100 Earth). I will go back some day to have a look at the other boys (I asked: usually they have 7 or 8 boys) and might take Earth again (the sex was good, but not overwhelming to justify 2100 Baht total expenses).

In case you have never heard of any of these bars, I might elaborate on reports about future visits and make a map some time, as there is only little information in English on the internet and most of it is old.