Friday, 25 August 2023

Quiz: What happened?

Quiz: what happened?

Picture shows  metacarpal fracture
from last year, long healed. Solution after pictures, but my readers are invited for educated guesses nonetheless. (German: Mittelhandknochenbruch)





Not a case for a Darwin Award (Nominee must be dead or rendered sterile. not fulfilled, just bad luck).


I had an accident while getting a haircut. On my way to my hairdresser, I got sweaty. I have been going there for years, and I was the only customer, so I took off my shirt to cool down and my hand got into the rotating ceiling fan. He told me this has happened to another customer before. There was a bit of blood, no pain, so I stayed to get a haircut and only two days later, swelling increasing, I went to hospital. My assumption was an infection (fans are among the most dirty things in a household), but x-ray showed a fracture that was put in a cast.

There is nothing to learn from this accident, other than "don't stick your hand into a rotating fan".

Or my loyal reader Vinapu: "getting sick is unhealthy".

But I take this as an occasion for various jokes:

I was attacked by a ceiling fan, and after heavy defensive fights I escaped slightly wounded. After this near-death experience, I fully recovered.

Having one hand in a cast poses some difficulties in daily life. I already had a water bottle that can be opened with one hand in daily use. I had a magnetic charging cable for my phone (attach/detach with one hand). The doctor said I won't be able to play the piano for a while. No problem, we don't have a piano at home and I can't play the piano anyway.

Think of all the possible subsequent accidents: Things I usually hold or do with my left hand, I have to do with my right hand. Unnatural motion sequence, I could drop something. I could slip and, not being able to use both hands to catch the fall, have another injury. Walking with open laces in the airport, the lace could get caught in a travelator or escalator.

In Thailand, I wear flip-flops. But the accident was a week before my flight to Germany. On my day of departure, a friend did my laces, but I had to take off my shoes at security. I didn't want to ask staff to do my laces, so I went online and found instructions how to do laces with one hand, and it worked! Home in Germany, my mother refused to do my laces and insisted we buy shoes without laces (just need a shoehorn). This was a full success, even now I wear those shoes in Germany, to save me the time and effort to bend down and do laces.

(going to see a doctor two days after the accident:)
If this had happened in Stalingrad, I would not even have gone to see a doctor. There were no ceiling fans in Stalingrad anyway.

Anyway, I would not have gotten a (German Verwundetenabzeichen, English Purple Heart), but rather a disciplinary transfer for self-mutilation.

What happened? - A work accident.
A work accident? - I sprained my wrist while wanking.

Luckily the broken bone is in my left hand, I can still use my right hand for wanking. Luckily, I don't work with my hands, but with my brain and cock.

In addition to "Traveling with diarrhea" and "Traveling with frequent urination" I can now write another book "Traveling with a cast". One of my friends is decrepit and requests a wheelchair whenever he travels by air because he wouldn't make it from check-in to gate on foot. Another one can walk, but looks decrepit and requests, and gets, a wheelchair. So I decided to try.

I had an economy flight BKK-SIN-BER but went to priority check-in. Staff asked to see my medical certificate and then processed my check-in and called me a wheelchair. But after waiting for about 15 min, I cancelled the wheelchair and went to boarding gate on my own. Doing laces after taking off shoes at security see above. Change in Singapore worked fine, I was picked up at the airplane by wheelchair and sent to boarding gate. In Berlin I waited for wheelchair, gave up, and made my way through airport alone.

In Germany an odyssey: doctor in my hometown has no x-ray, so I had to get an x-ray in a hospital and come back. There were complications, so he sent me to another doctor that requires travel of about 1 hour by train. I got an appointment that fitted train times well, but the day before I had another look at the timetable to find rail replacement service. That means three hours travel time instead of one, each direction. In total, I spent 9 hours out of home, less than 20 minutes with the doctor.

Nowadays have to check timetable before every trip (delays and cancellations and rail replacement) and call everywhere (museums, restaurants) to make sure they are open. Rail replacement, in German "Schienenersatzverkehr" of which a friend said sounds like chalk screeching on a blackboard.


This year, I spent more time in hospitals that in gogo bars and I can warn my readers: gogo bar visits are shorter, cheaper and more fun.

Copyright 2023 ChristianPFC except memes

Tuesday, 15 August 2023

Gay activities May2023 Cambodia

Gay activities May2023 Cambodia
More precisely 28apr-15may2023. 1 USD = 4100 KHR. Details on travel and massages in Phnom Penh.

Fri28apr2023 Bangkok to Phnom Penh
I used to travel over land between Thailand and Cambodia, but by now have covered most places of interest along the way (Bangkok to Siem Reap, with overnight stays in Sakaew or Poipet).

Flight to Cambodia. Check-in asks how long I will stay in Cambodia (2 weeks), where I will go next (Vietnam), if I have a visa for Cambodia (visa on arrival) or for Vietnam (visa free) and discusses with other staff, then I hear (in Thai) “Dutch bpai loei” (Dutch, let him/her go). That's a common misconception, my passport says “Nationality: Deutsch” which is often misinterpreted as “Dutch”.

Phnom Penh bus stop in front of airport. I have to wait from 18:11 until bus line 3 finally comes 18:50. And the bus is full, I have to stand half of the way. Fare is 1k5. Off bus 19:29, walk to my hotel at riverside. In this case, tuktuk would have been a better choice.

Donald comes at night but cannot stay over night, family business.

Sat29apr2023 Phnom Penh
After difficult communication and no show with KK188 in Oct2022, I didn't message him again, but he kept contact and today place and time aligns. Comes to my room 8:09, quickly to bed. Body shape okay, brown warm dry skin, activities okay. Bye 8:30. Overall a bit rushed, but potential for more. Works in a factory over night, now he will have breakfast, then sleep.

Kyle comes at night for fun.

Sun30apr2023 Phnom Penh
Hatha Khmer Massage 16:03 has 12 boys (white sleeveless shirts, behind glass wall), #10 looks fine. Nice room (pics on Note20ultra), bathroom and shower. Mirrors on wall, but big ornamental button in center. Clock in room but battery empty (and swollen). Massage starts 16:11. No English, Thai or Chinese. Good massage on legs and back, warm hands. No erotic touching. In underwear (grey FILA trunks, nice). After turn around I have some gropes and we proceed to happy ending. 20 USD tip and 10 USD one hour oil massage, out 17:14. Overall, I would have massage with #10 again.

Dai Khmer Massage #250D St 376, Phnom Penh gone and no sign left. I think they closed long ago, I just had this point showing on google maps and was nearby so I checked.

Ganesh House Massage 17:38 has 10 fully dressed boys (behind glass wall and curtain, receptionist waits until everyone in position before drawing curtain), none my type.

Now 10 USD entry Arthur & Paul A&P for tourists (6.50 for locals and expats), stay 18:10-20:10. Busy with up to 20 customers. Two bordercases. Sauna switched off (ask receptionist: needs repair, has been like that for a while). Several lockers don't work.

Another customer (expat) chats me up. Interesting conversation.

He quickly becomes aware of my autism and tells me there is a school in Phnom Penh for special need children (autism).
I didn't know that such a school exists in Cambodia. Only the rich can afford it, but anyway, only the rich have autistic children, the poor don't have autism. The poor have other mental health issues, I could write a book.

However, this is a correlation, not a causation.
The causation is intelligence. The rich are rich because they are intelligent, and have autistic children because they are intelligent. My view of the world, would need quotation or research to prove.

We have dinner elsewhere, but now Expat becomes pushy and obnoxious (wants me to join to Bassac Lane, “why not?” or “come on” many times, repetitive) and we split after dinner. I'm not a party/disco person anyway, and in this case in addition I feel sleepy.
 
"No" does not mean "convince me". "No" means "No".

Kyle cancels date for tonight, health issues.

Mon1may2023 Phnom Penh
Donald cancels, family business. I haven't been on online dating since I arrived, now open blued: messages from 10 profiles, hornet and grindr one or none.

Online dating Pgay stats and pics soso, but in videochat nice. Meet 21:15 at Kiwi mart (now mini Big C), and sit and chat there. Wears face mask throughout. Okay English, he is shy (ashamed of hotel staff). A bit on fat side, skin color okay, as far as I can see. Wants me to go first and will follow (after parking mocy). I'm back in room 21:35. Finally 21:58 message he will go home (out of shyness, doesn't dare enter hotel, I guess from our chat). Filed as no-show. Chat in supplement.

Tue2may2023 Phnom Penh to Kampot

Wed4may2023 Kampot
Online dating no luck.

Thu4may2023 Kampot
Not a gay sauna, but a clean and spacious, well maintained, cheap general sauna. 4 USD entry Cam Beach sauna and steam 18:04-19:34. 15 min (hourglass) in sauna. Use the salt provided for body scrub. Up to 10 customers. Two cute staff. Free drinks (hot ginger tea, two other teas). Lockers in blocks of 10x3+8x3, numbers ending in 3 or 7 missing, but 30s are there. The Chinese sometimes skip numbers with 4 because they are unlucky, but why skip 3 and 7?

Fri5may2023 Kampot to Phnom Penh
Date with Chang (pictures in online dating not clear), he is on his way.

Suddenly 21:11 message on grindr from XZ, 108 m away. We met before, nice body and good activities, but too difficult, I gave up hope of meeting again. But now, he contacting me and nearby, I cancel Chang* and chat with XZ. I'm out 21:20, finally meet at 7-Eleven about 21:35. What took him so long? To my room. Wants to sleep in separate beds (double bed rooms were booked out, I got a room with two beds). Shower separately. Then plays on phone and I study Chinese. I ask for a hug, unclear response. Then tells me has to go home (1 hour by mocy), better now than tomorrow. Dresses in bathroom. Overall complete waste of my time, over 1 hour for 3 hugs that I have to ask for. Bye 22:29 in my room.

* Not my style, I think the first time I cancel one boy for another. But I haven't met Chang before (and no clear pictures in online dating) whereas I know that XZ is good body and activities, when you can get hold of him (difficult character).

A promising profile on online dating in my hotel turns out to be a money boy. For Asean Games there seem to be more people around, in hotels and online dating.

When I go to bed, some weird sounds (from aircon, I thought). After half an hour not being able to fall asleep for these sounds, I realize there is a bat in my room, flying between aircon and door. Open both doors, bat goes out to balcony.

Sat6may2023 Phnom Penh
AhPi comes by bicycle to meet me. Good English. Average face, sideburns. Yuck! An indicator for body hair elsewhere. Hairy upper thighs. Plays on phone, then to bed for hugging and slowly get nude. His skin first wet sweaty (took shower at home, but got sweaty from bicycle ride), then fine. Body shape okay, skin color okay. Some closed mouth kisses, his upper lip beard unpleasant on my skin. We have an okay time.

Blued message from yet another one in my hotel.

Sun7may2023 Phnom Penh
Meet Rudolf near my place. General chat. Can't swim, which I find funny (because it's so simple for me who can swim). We go to my room and have a good time.

Swimming is underrated, just like touch typing. I have two Farang friends of which I know they can't swim, and many Thai. Not just underrated, can be life-saving!

Drowning is the leading cause of death among Thai children under 15 years old. Every year, 1,500 people drown in Thailand.
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/addressing-a-range-of-risk-factors-for-drowning-through-cross-cutting-action-in-thailand

I wonder if that number includes drunk drowning. I would distinguish between drowning sober or drunk. I would file the latter under alcohol-related accidents/deaths.

from: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Leading-causes-of-death-in-children-age-1-17-in-Thailand-Source-Child-Injury-in-Thailand_fig3_265101749

Mon8may2023 Phnom Penh
I got a recommendation from a friend for a boy Efeu who works in a mixed massage place. Friend praises Efeu for being muscular, big cock, good massage and afters. Based on this information, I contact Efeu on telegram and go to his workplace (massage and spa).

Only on tuktuk to his workplace I get the idea to take a look at his profile to see a picture of him, not attractive to me and rather fat than muscular. And that place is rather expensive, 22 USD for one hour oil massage, information that I could have gotten in advance, and I would have taken a very close look before spending 22 USD on one hour massage. But now I have arranged everything, proceed.

In our massage room three massage tables with facewell. Shower with curtain. One light on ceiling, cannot dim. One aircon, no remote (but temp and fan okay for me). Massage starts with back, good. Then legs, good. Not clear if erotic touching or just long strokes. Turns off ceiling light and uses his phone to light the room. Massages my front, then erotic, good. I don't get hard or otherwise react to erotic, he takes my hand and puts it on his crotch. I have a few gropes, he takes off clothes. Skin a bit cold wet. Not muscle, rather fat by my standards. Not big cock, but average by my standards. I'm not really horny, but play along for happy ending. 20 USD tip in room (after I give him 20, asks for 30, which I immediately dismiss).

For me a complete failure, but I can see the attraction and would recommend to friends.

A mixture of greed (muscular, big cock got me drooling) and poor preparation (I didn't read the price list of the place in advance, or got pictures of Efeu). At least experimental proof that higher price (22 USD for one hour oil massage; at gay places usually 10) does not translate to better maintenance/equipment (poor light, no aircon remote).

Right side what I imagined, left side what I got:

source: https://www.8days.sg/entertainment/asian/allen-chens-fatty-hunk-transformation-under-two-months-403106

Meet Chang (after I canceled 3 days ago). He comes by mocy, despite rain. In Thailand, rain would be the end: I don't go anywhere for boy business when it rains, and no boy ever came to my place during rain. He wears a raincoat, I can see he is a bit on fat side and very average face. Quickly to bed. Fat but warm dry neck nice smell. Makes me love bite on chest. Okay activities, I play along. Fatty and hair on abdomen and upper thighs and butt crack and half butt cheeks (from crack). I have to cut it short, bye 22:24 in my room. Profile picture clearly fake, and the album (no access any more) fake as well? I should have video called to save my time! No repeat.

Wed10may2023 Phnom Penh
Out for sightseeing in town. Have lunch and one of the staff Chan asks if I'm Christian. He saw me on grindr. Interesting chat, fluent in English, see you again for more at first opportunity! Afterwards I look again on grindr, and now I recognize his profile, but dismissed it for nonsense picture and text.

Om Massage 17:10 has 3 boys (3 staff in total), none my type. All poor English, barely get info oil massage 1 hour 10 USD (menu in English), expected tip 20 USD.

Thu11may2023 Phnom Penh
Donald cancels for work overtime.

This trip boy-wise so far a fail: Donald only once short, two other favorites not at all*. For those three I would travel to Cambodia and wait a day for them (i.e. no other boy business and no travel far away from my room). Else the lure of the new boy bigger. Those three I came to Cambodia for, I should have gone to Myanmar instead! Trip didn't work out well boy-wise, and everything else in Cambodia is inferior to Thailand, Myanmar, Vietnam.

*One busy, the other doesn't want to meet any more because he has a boyfriend now, chat in supplement.

But Chan can meet after work. Comes at night and we have a good time. Stays over night.

Fri12may2023 Phnom Penh
Another round in the morning and bye.

Go to meet Donald at his place and have a good time.

Agree with Peru to meet 21 after work, but then it turns out he finishes work 24. Too late for me, or rather the combination of late and asking for money. Filed as missed.

Another one HV is nearby with friends and would meet afterwards. Needs money for study, I didn't directly reply. But he goes home (outskirts). Filed as missed.

Sat13may2023 Phnom Penh
Pap knock on door 13:25. How did he know my room number? Probably from reception. Quickly to bed. Warm dry skin. Underwear CaringKnow trunks (black with white script, no space, Calvin Klein imitation). Good activities. 20 USD bye 14:05 in my room. Tell him next time I want longer time together.

Several others busy.

Sun14may2023 Phnom Penh
Kyle comes to my room and we have a good time. Lunchtime he is hungry, but doesn't react on my suggestion to go out to eat and come back. If I invite him for lunch, that would send a wrong signal and he would stick with me the entire day. I do computer work, Kyle plays on phone or sleeps, finally bye in the afternoon, he will go to eat. Not the first time I have to starve someone into leaving me.

And indeed, another encounter at night with Ohm. We had chatted before, but now he is nearby and free time. Good English, good body and activities, repeat.

Book my flight to Germany for 542.71 EUR. Before Covid, average was 400 EUR. I get an offer (my translation from German, my exclamation marks): for 71.26 EUR (!!!) more I can get FullFlex, which means I can cancel the trip and receive a voucher (!!!) of 90% (!!!) of the ticket price that I can use for future bookings, can be split over multiple bookings. I feel offended by this offer! These conditions are an insult!

Those insurances (in this case, FullFlex works as insurance for cancelling trip) are way overpriced, and getting a voucher for 90% of ticket price borders on scam! Insurance for cancellation costs 10% of flight price, but out of over 100 flights I took in my life, I never had to cancel  one, which means for me a fair price would would be 1% of flight price.

Mon15may2023 Phnom Penh to Bangkok
12k8 passapp to airport, whereas grab would cost 17k4. Flight to Bangkok.

Summary May2023 Cambodia:
10 Free sex:
Donald, KK188, Kyle, AhPi, Rudolf, Chang, Chan, Donald, Kyle, Ohm.
3 Paid sex: Hatha Khmer Massage 10+20, Efeu 22+20, Pap 20 = 32+60 USD.
2 No sex: Pgay (shy to enter hotel), XZ.

3 Boy cancels: Kyle (health issues), Donald (family business), Donald (overtime).
1 I cancel: Chang (so I can meet XZ).
2 Missed: Peru (finishes work late), HV.
2 Massages:
Hatha Khmer Massage, genuine massage place.

10 Repeat: Donald, KK188, Kyle, Hatha Khmer Massage, Rudolf, Chan, Donald, Pap, Kyle, Ohm.
3 No repeat: AhPi, Efeu, Chang.

5 Old: Donald, Kyle, Pap, Donald, Kyle.
8 New: KK188, Hatha Khmer Massage, AhPi, Rudolf, Efeu, Chang, Chan, Ohm.

Copyright 2023 ChristianPFC

Supplementing material: chats with Pgay and Long.



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Saturday, 5 August 2023

Gay activities Apr2023 Thailand

Gay activities apr2023 Thailand
More precisely 21mar-28apr2023 (39 nine days including first and last day, visa free 45 days). Gay activities and details on money exchanges, Ratchada Sauna = R3 Sauna show, Songkran.

Tue21mar2023 Phnom Penh to Bangkok

Wed22mar2023 Bangkok
Exchange money at X-One Currency Exchange in Surawong https://www.x-one.co.th

Their rates are marginally* better than Supperrich: X-One 36.96, Superrich 36.95, xe.com 37.12, (transfer)wise 37.09. Depending on where you stay, location might be closer than other exchanges. But it can be crowded (small waiting area inside with aircon, even people waiting outside on the sidewalk) and it's a multi-step process: get queue number, passport copy, hand in my EUR, get a receipt and wait for my number to be called again to get THB at another counter from another cashier. Tedious, but for best rate and convenient location I would use them again.
*it seems they beat Superrich by 0.01 THB.

My favorite is 19 Exchange in Pratunam (next to various other exchanges, all same rates every time I checked) where I'm usually the only customer and deal with everything in one go with the same person.

Thu23mar2023 Bangkok
Kittiporn asks for 500 THB online for travel expenses, cancels when I refuse.

Fri24mar2023 Bangkok
An old acquaintance Korn comes to meet me and we have interesting chat, lunch and a good time in bed.

Ratchada Sauna (former R3 Sauna), google maps has the shortcut through car parking under Fortune town. Entry 190 THB with a friend's member card (i.e. the card gets stamped and I pay entry fee to my friend).

Arrive 20:02. Steam room and sauna lukewarm, I'm the only one, pee smell in sauna. Jacuzzi too dark, one customer. Light in locker room okay, most areas too dark. Underwear day, underwear styles okay, some customers nude. Only cold water in shower. Small towels at bar next to showers. Advertising for their O-Parties, all places 420 THB entry for O-Parties, Mania 300 entry on other days, expensive!

source: TheFlukeXXL (or similar name in various social media, online dating and adult videos)

Show about 20:35 to 21:30. Starts in gym, lights off, only light from light sticks around performers' wrists or necks.
Too dark and dangerous in gym! Recognize Fluke (picture above) and have some gropes. Performers have sex with each other, moaning not convincing. Then moves to secret room near gym for orgy, everyone can join. Among the performers one clear hit, a cute and slim boy Chin, who can be top or bottom in interaction with others. Reminds me of Arm58k (pictures below). Customer base okay. But over all, numbers too low and too dark and not my style. Performers with customers assembly line / conveyor belt sex. Afterwards wank and go.

source: https://www.instagram.com/arm_58k/

While there are some nice customers and performers, the entire set-up is not my style. In particular TOO DARK. It will be a while until I'm back, if at all.

For a positive report read here: https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/39740-i’m-back-bangkok-trip-report-july-2023/

Highest locker number is 313. Without even consciously thinking about it, there must be a mistake because 313 is not divisible by 3 or any other number that would fit blocks of lockers. In this case there are 3 lockers from floor to ceiling. Not just that, it's prime! Block of lockers: 1 to 63, 64 to 157, 158 to 220, 221 to 313. The mistake is 64 to 157, and indeed there is no locker 77! Total number of lockers 312 which is 3x104. Leave 22:00, just in time before shortcut through parking underneath Fortune town gets locked.

Sat25mar2023 Bangkok
Wait for Norbert, finally 14:42 reply, cancels date today for family business, postpones to tomorrow. File as no show (reply only after several messages from me in course of morning and midday). With this ends my one week without online dating and five weeks without paying for sex.

200 online to Bank for travel expenses. Bank is the only one I send money in advance. We have met many times over the years, no scam. We have a good time, 1000 well deserved (I even let him keep the 200 I sent online and don't deduct it from 1000).

Sun26mar2023 Bangkok
Norbert no reply, no show.

Mon27mar-Mon3apr2023 Hua Hin and Chumphon
Spend time with a German friend and his Thai husband at their place or traveling around by their car and staying in hotel.
No occasion or time for gay activities. A glimpse into the life of the rich and beautiful/handsome. I have never been called handsome, but I can still become rich (heritage, lottery, bank robbery).


Tue4apr2023 Bangkok
Boy comes to my room and I have a good time, 1000 well deserved.

Go to see a Farang friend, his first time back in Thailand after Covid. He met a Vietnamese boy from online and summarizes his experience: Vietnamese boy didn't do a lot (in bed), but asked a lot (of money).

I won't let this chance pass to tell everyone again what I think of Vietnamese money boys in Thailand, quote from https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?23068-Best-twinks-in-Pattaya&p=294506&viewfull=1#post294506
(my reply to ...why so anti vietnam??) Experience. Own and several friends'. One of my friends recently had a Vietnamese boy and summarized the encounter: he asked a lot (of money) but didn't do a lot (in bed). Another friend had a Vietnamese boy and threw him out after 5 minutes (and regrets he gave him 500 for taxi, whereas 100 would have been enough) because after 5 minutes it became clear to my friend that the boy expected to leave after 5 minutes with 1000. A third friend however was happy with a recent encounter with a Vietnamese boy.

Wed5apr2023 Bangkok
Top is eager to meet now, so I postpone my plans. We have a good time. 400 for taxi.

Thu6apr2023 Bangkok
I'm having dinner at a foodstall in Klong Toey market and a cute boy cut boy comes to sit at my table, while another table is free. Very unusual! Cute boy starts a chat and speaks good English and asks for my social media. Interesting, let's see where this leads!

I had chatted with Ball before, meeting on 6jan2023 failed because he wanted to meet me somewhere else for dinner invitation (i.e. I invite him at a place of his choice). I don't do that any more after various negative experiences (i.e. wine and dine didn't lead to bed).

If she hasn't kissed you by the third date,
she is there for free food. - Aristotle


But today he is willing to come to my place. Still asking for dinner invitation, but if it's near my place I'm okay with that. Only when he orders by showing staff his phone screen do I realize he is deaf. Same as with the tiktok boy in Cambodia, who skillfully used English translation for online chat and did non-verbal communication while we were together, until I realized he doesn't understand a word of what I talked with him in English.

We have dinner, chat writing on phone, and to my room. Good time in bed, Ball stays over night.

Fri7apr2023 Bangkok
Another round in the morning. 1000 well deserved. That's the 4th deaf boy I have met for fun, and all of them were above average.

After two no-show, finally 
Norbert again. Stays over night.

Sat8apr2023 Bangkok
Fluent in English, interesting stories, doesn't ask for money, but boring in bed.

Wed12apr2023 Bangkok
Norbert comes in the afternoon, small talk and sleeps in my bed fully dressed. I have a few gropes, no response, leave it at that. Norbert out in the evening, back at night and stays over night.

Thu13apr2023 Bangkok
Fun in the morning. Spends the day in bed with his phone, I join a few times for hugs. Leaves for late lunch, but didn't tell me if and when he will be back.

Knock on door 21:08, 
Norbert back without telling me. I had already set up a meeting with a Farang friend nearby, leave Norbert alone in my room 22-24.

Fri14apr2023 Bangkok
Norbert out after breakfast.

Sat15apr2023 Bangkok Songkran
Gay massages on Inthamara. Home Spa 18:25 has 3 boys available (pictures on tab), none my type. Ask for Muang, Pat, Non, not in / don't work there (any more). Intra Massage the same 3 boys. 27M (former Kobtong) about 10 boys on tablet, none my type, the three I'm looking for not there. KK (former K-Why) wait 18:40-50 for other customers to be served, then about 15 boys on tablet, among them Danai. Ask for Muang, Pat, Non, not there. Decide for massage with Danai, but learn he has gone home (then why don't they update so I see only who is available now?).

Pockets full of money, my wallet bursting at the seams, but Songkran thwarts my plans.

Avoid water play on Inthamara, only get water poured over hand symbolically. Loud mocy and water play stationary on sidewalk and from driving pick-up trucks as well. Take bus home. Waterplay out of bus (water guns) and to bus (buckets), but not wet because windows closed. On walk home symbolically water on feet from water hose. In both cases (water symbolically) they could have drenched me.


Once again, Songkran a time to avoid in Thailand. Restaurants closed, massages still open but limited choice. Spend most of the time in my room. Avoid going out or traveling. But I know people who like it come to Thailand for Songkran.

Wed19apr2023 Bangkok
About midnight knock on door: 
Norbert. Can't get into his place (the usual problem: there are more people living in a place than there are keys for that place). Quickly to bed and sleep.

Thu20apr2023 Bangkok
Lazy morning in bed with 
Norbert, little response. Filed as no sex. Norbert out after breakfast.

I'm out all day with a Farang friend and when paying lunch in a restaurant, I notice only one 1000 THB note left. A few days ago, I had 15k in my wallet. Rarely that I have that much money in my wallet. Did 
Norbert steal it? Lost contact on all channels. Coincidence? I would meet him again and put a counted number of money in my wallet to get proof. Not to confront him, just to know for sure. The unreported number of thieves might be higher, some thefts I don't notice. I need a device to stick in my wallet that records video every time I open my wallet. I would watch that video when money is missing, or once a week. Previous cases of theft: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/04/dating-thai-boys-50-thieves.html

Fri21apr2023 Bangkok to Pattaya
200 Leo beer in Nice Boys 21:18-22:19. 11 boys and 3 customers when I arrive, 5 boys sitting with customers. Old favorites Nine and Dui, several other promising. Total about 10 customers during my stay. Pass Winner Boys, only few boys, don't spot anyone on stage.

Sat22apr2023 Pattaya
A boy Ton from the countryside is in Pattaya over Songkran. We meet at Tuk-Com and spend 5 minutes there. He doesn't talk much, then wants to go home (alone) to take a nap (just got up to meet me). Did I say or do something wrong? I asked so a few days later online, read but no reply. Finally go on online dating after about a week without.

First chat with with Tanadol was 12may2019, and several attempts to meet failed (slow reply, away). We agree to meet 21:30, but my message 21:10 not read, so I leave 21:40 for Winner Boys. This time range 20-23 is too important (to go to gogo bars) to wait for someone I haven't met before without communication.

Then in front of Winner a message from Tanadol, he is on his way. Distance on hornet still 480 m, as it was from Mosaik. I don't know how long this will take. I enter Winner and let him wait.

89 THB pineapple juice in Winner 20:49-21:14. 9 boys 3 customer (more during my stay). Several revealing underwear, but not my taste of underwear.

Meet Tanadol in front of Tuk-Com 21:24. Approach him from behind, can see nice neck, legs, body shape and dress. A relief, there was a small chance the pictures on online dating were not his, or that he gained weight. Talks very little. Lives nearby, why did it take so long and why did he ask for taxi money? Body and activities all fine. Wants to smoke on balcony but I forbid. No sign of leaving, I initiate his departure. Bye 23:45. At end still weak smell of cigarette when kissing. 800 well deserved for activities and body, but not for difficult communication and delays (that's why I offered only 800 in the first place, usually 1000).

Sun23apr2023 Pattaya to Bangkok
Look for Tea from 3sep2022 on blued, and he is in Bangkok and wants to meet. My intent was just to see if he is still around. I'm not horny and originally refuse to meet now, but then agree for just hugging. Delays, finally arrives 00:09. To bed and sleep. But he wants hugging and to grab my dick, but I don't want. “Just a little bit. Please.” repeatedly. Annoying. Beard stubbles and his long hair unpleasant feeling. Warm dry skin throughout. Body shape okay. String around waist, otherwise naked in bed (and would like me naked as well). Poor sleep.

Mon24apr2023 Bangkok
Tea has a wank, wipes it off with his trousers, which he then wears. Get him out 7:43 and stay in bed to get some sleep.

Tue25apr2023 Bangkok
Amp comes to meet me, but slow travel and reply. On BTS 13:52? My message 14:30 is read 15:17, no reply. Then finally 15:28 arrives. To bed, warm dry all fine. Activities okay. 1000 for Amp.

In my room reading, suddenly a loud sound. Can/tin of pineapple (bought Mar2020 in preparation of Covid) exploded, i.e. lid ripped open and some juice outside (between can and plastic wrap). A sound comparable if it had fallen down from 1 m height. Bottom of the can, bulge from pressure:


Similar has happened before, when สละลอยแก้ว (sala in heavy syrup) fermented and exploded, however much less sound because the container was plastic and smaller.

Fri28apr2023 Bangkok to Phnom Penh

Summary Apr2023 (21mar-25apr2023=37 days not including first and last day):
5 Free sex: Korn, Top (400 taxi), 
Norbert, Norbert, Tea.
5 Paid sex: Bank 1200, Boy 1000, Ball deaf 1000, Tanadol 800, Amp 1000 = 5000.
4 No sex: 
Norbert, Norbert, Norbert, Ton.

1 Refused: Kittporn (wants money online).
2 No show: 
Norbert, Norbert.

9 Repeat: Korn, Bank, Boy, Top, Ball deaf, 
Norbert, Norbert, Tanadol, Amp.
1 No repeat: Tea.

8 Old: Korn, Bank, Boy, Top, 
Norbert, Norbert, Tea, Amp.
2 New: Ball deaf, Tanadol.

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Sunday, 30 July 2023

Cycling in SEAsia

Cycling in SEAsia

Only recently did I get into cycling in SEAsia. It took me so long because I have a friend who goes by bicycle in Bangkok. Absolutely not for me (but works for him, always the same routes and not in main traffic; whereas I would be in a different area every trip, and 10-20 km to get there). I have two friends who used to drive a bicycle in Phnom Penh. Absolutely not for me. I pondered registering for Pun Pun Bike Share in Bangkok (http://www.punpunbikeshare.com/ Thai only, for English see e.g. here https://bicyclethailand.com/pun-pun-bicycle-share-program-in-bangkok-thailand/), but just at night when it would be useful to me (no sun, less traffic), they don't allow to rent bikes after 8pm, and if you return a bike the next day, fee is 500 THB. Three reasons not even to consider going somewhere by bike.
   
There was a free bicycle rental in Bangkok that I used in 2010:  
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?12770-Bangkok-Smile-Bike

But then in Kanchanaburi, quote from:
https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2022/03/cycling-near-kanchanaburi.html
Then I haven an epiphany: rent a bicyle! I don’t know why I didn’t get that idea earlier, but probably because I have two friends who get around Bangkok and Phnom Penh by bicycle, which I consider too dangerous and there are better alternatives. But Kanchanaburi, with tree lined local roads with wide side strips is perfect for cycling.

An attempted repeat in Nakon Sawan failed for lack of bicycle rental. I searched online and asked several bike stores in Nakon Sawan, no bicycle rental. There is one in the park, I could see their bikes locked, but nobody there on two occasions I went. Anyway, I assume their bike rental is for use to drive around the park, and not to the countryside as I had in mind. No bicycle rental in Saraburi either. Several more provincial capitals where a bicycle would be useful to get around. 

Renting a bicycle in Siem Reap worked great, many shops and flat countryside. Kampot all fine as well.

In Sihanoukville  poor choice, by coincidence the place I was staying at (Don Bosco Guesthouse) had bicycles for rent. Sihanoukville is on hills, you need a gearshift, and at least once chain jumped off cogwheel but I could put it back by hand. 
   
Update 3nov2025: កង់ភ្នំ (Mountain bike) at 10.6301, 103.5193 (about 10 m misplaced on google maps, submit correction). No sign, I couldn't find it, ask someone, turns out they are the bicycle rental. Mountain bike (broad tires, gears work well, disk breaks, but no basket, no stand) for 5 USD/day. They have been open 3 or 4 years, but I learnt of them only now. The only bicycle rental in Sihanoukville as far as I know.

In Hua Hin ample choice of bike rental, 100 THB/day for a city bike and mountain bikes available for more. I did a good daytrip by bicycle.
A dedicated bicycle store in Hua Hin (elsewhere often only a side business of motorbike rental):


In Pai ample choice. They had city bikes with gearshift, but it seems the gearshift was made for flat land and not for hills. Even in lowest gear I had to get off the bike and push it up the hill; pedaling would have put a high stress on the bike and my legs. Here the chain jumped off cogwheel twice, first I could put it back by hand, second it got stuck between cogwheel and spikes and all I could do is lock the bike and hitchhike back and tell rental agency. They refunded the rental fee and picked up the bike, next day I could continue with same bike.

From memory, other occasions where I had bikes with gearshift, there were some issues as well (rattling noise when changing gears, you can't get into all gears, have to get used to every individual change of gears). There are more bike rental agencies in SEAsia than there are mechanics who can service a bike gearshift!

Next trip to Pattaya, I will get a bike for rent and do some sightseeing out of town. Same for Ayutthaya.

All cases above, rental of
city bike with or without gears was about 100 THB or 3 USD/day. I wouldn't want to drive a motorbike. I don't have license and I don't want to. With bicycle you can park more easily (and I do a lot of stops along the way) and you can easily push or carry it when there is a short distance to cover that you can't drive.

With cycling I can fill that gap between walking (up to 5 km) and public transport or renting a car with driver (from 20 km), provided there is a bicycle rental.

Updates:
'Just as the computer, the bicycle is a tool that amplifies our inherent abilities to spectacular magnitudes' — Steve Jobs

PunPun Bike Share in Bangkok is still there, but some stations have no bikes at all, other stations most bikes flat tires (from standing long time without use). I guess it failed and will some day disappear.

There was Bangkok Smile Bike which I used in 2010:
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?12770-Bangkok-Smile-Bike, discontinued in 2015 according to: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1NfLcqZAOyPRdbRQjCVPLY1Vvq8k
A blog in Thai: https://notenote0.wordpress.com/category/rv-bangkok-smile-bike/

In Prachuap Khiri Khan, rent from the place I was staying at (around 2018, I think Soi 10 near airforce base, permanently closed)

Ubon Ratchathani Ubon Rental Cycle 15.22867, 104.8626 all fine Nov2023. Repeat 2-4jul2025 all fine.


Korat "Korat Wandee โคราชวันดี จักรยาน และ รถไฟฟ้า ( ถนนเข้า บขส เก่า ) Bike & E-Bike" responsive on facebook https://web.facebook.com/koratwandee/, speaks English, city bike 150 THB/day on 6jul2025 all fine. You could call that expensive, considering I passed a shop that rents mocy for 300/day. 

There is another in Korat "อาณาจักร จักรยาน Bike land Korat" https://web.facebook.com/phr.thipha.w.rwi.ri.ya.praserith but didn't read my message and further away from my hotel. 

Pattaya Cadence Cycle Pattaya in Jomtien Second Road corner to Soi 8. I had messaged them on facebook and they confirmed that they have bicycles for rent (city bike 100 THB/day). But when I came in person on 29nov2023, no city bikes available, only mountain bikes at 450 THB/day, minimum rental time 3 days, deposit 3000 THB. Furthermore, closing time not 6 pm as posted, but 5 pm. Too early, I would have to come back the next morning to return the bike. I have rented bikes in many places, but I don't like the conditions here. Fuck you. No, thank you. I went by grab, walking, public transport along Sukhumvit instead.

Quest for bicycle rental in Pattaya continues, rather for 2, one in the north and one in the south to save trip through Pattaya by bike. What I found on internet does not look promising. I put this question on Aseanow, no replies. https://aseannow.com/topic/1366741-looking-for-bicycle-rental-in-pattaya/#comment-19944656

Update 30aug2025, there is now a bicycle rental in Pattaya https://www.facebook.com/Bicycle.Rent.Pattaya.Pratamnak albeit quite expensive (city bike 250/day, 600 for 3 days; elsewhere usually 100/day).

There might be several in Chiang Mai, e.g. ChiangMai Tour&Bike Rental เชียงใหม่ทัวร์แอนด์มอเตอร์ไซค์,จักรยานให้เช่า https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571786346366 

More updates:
Chiang Mai 25-28jul2025 google maps "Thai Charoen Motorbike, Bicycle, Laundry, and Tours" (closest to my hotel) City bike one day 80 or three days 200, basket, no gears. 
Fine for getting around town, which is all flat. Mountain bike 150 per day, gears. Deposit 1000. 
 
Phrae 29jul2025 rent city bike (without basket, two gears in hub does not work) for 100 from Maeyom Palace hotel (service for customers only). There is "บี ไบค์ Car & Bike For Rent Phrae" https://www.facebook.com/Phraebebike/posts/1241576981303832 as well. 

 
Anywheel daily and longer https://www.anywheel.co.th/rates/ No map on internet, ask them on facebook messenger: only in Chiang Mai and Bangkok (Thammasat Rangsit would be of use to me). 
PunPun seems to operate only in Bangkok, map here (6aug2015): https://www.facebook.com/PunPunBangkokBicycleShare/ 

Update Phnom Penh Nov2025: Siem Reaper Travel - Phnom Penh Bike Tours & Food Tours offers only tours by bicycle, but no bicycle rental. They refer me to M Bicycle (street 19 behind palace). But my hotel Nawin has one bicycle that they rent out to customers. 

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Thursday, 20 July 2023

Renting a car with driver

Renting a car with driver

I lead a lifestyle without owning or even driving a car. Most of my sightseeing is by walking or public transport, with a bit of cycling and hitchhiking as well (but only for return, once I got somewhere by public transport and getting out along the way, and bus for return would take too long and might not stop). But for some places, you need a car with driver, below details and and how to estimate price based on distance and waiting time (for the driver while I do sightseeing).

I try to get in contact with the driver directly (by asking at bus station) to get an impression of him and his car and to get lower prices than with an intermediary (hotel or travel agency).
All those drives were on time and there were no problems.

Fuel makes a significant difference in price. Diesel or gasoline/petrol at 40 THB/liter, usage 10 L/100km, costs 400 THB/100km, whereas NGV costs only 100 THB/100km (a full tank costs 200 THB and lasts 200 km, that means for longer trips you have to plan where to fill up). Here and following calculations all rounded to nearest 10 or 100. At time of writing 1 EUR = 38 THB, 1 USD = 34 THB, 1 GBP = 44 THB. My abbreviation 1k2=1200 THB.

I recently learnt that LPG and NGV are not exchangeable, for details read here:
https://www.endesa.com/en/blogs/endesa-s-blog/air-conditioning/what-do-glp-gnv-gnc-gnl
LPG is propane and butane liquefied at about 10 atm pressure, NGV is pressurised (200 atm) methane and ethane.

Current Bangkok taxi rates (feb 2023 increase) from https://thaiest.com/thailand/bangkok/taxi
1 to 10 km at 6.50 THB/km
10 to 20 km at 7.00 THB/km
20 to 30 km
at 8.00 THB/km
60 to 80 km at 9.00 THB/km
3 THB per minute (when going less than 6 km/h).
Bangkok taxi rate increase with distance, probably based on the assumption that you are going out of town and it will be difficult to find a passenger for return trip.

For Bangkok taxi see here as well: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2015/06/taxi-myths-debunked.html

Those prices are for empty return, and 3 THB/min for standing with running engine. For my following list of trips I calculate price for taxi at 6.50 THB/km and waiting time (total time minus driving time estimated at 50 km/h) at 180 THB/h. There is a good agreement between I what paid and what it would have cost based on above formula, split into distance (driving) and time (driver waiting for me).

Chronological list of trips by rented car with driver (date, place, distance, duration, price, taxi). All round trips. I was not aware what a difference gasoline/petrol vs. NGV makes, so I did not takes  notes what fuel the car uses. But I assume those in the countryside all used gasoline/petrol. Trips to Kanchanaburi, Pattaya, Ayutthaya used NGV. In all cases, a reasonable price was quoted, no need to haggle.

26dec20214 Phichit 123 km, 5 h, 1k2 (taxi 800+540=1340).


24jan2018 Lang Suan 100 km, 7 h, 1k5 (taxi 650+900=1550).

2018-2022 various trips with a friend by his car, for which he charges me 2 THB/km before Covid, 2.50 THB/km after Covid as half of fuel cost.

9jan2020 Sakaew 164 km, 8 h, 1k7 (taxi 1073+900=1973) Update incomplete. https://maps.app.goo.gl/GfakQmgSiNyXTzy18
18jan2022 U-Thong half day trip not covered here.

20nov2022 Nakon Phanom 250 km, 10 h, 2k5 (taxi 1625+900=2525).

10jan2023 around Pattaya 75 km, 8 h, 2k (taxi 500+1080=1580).
Pattaya is more expensive than the countryside, a Thai friend with a car who does driving as a side business even wanted 3k for this trip.

3-5feb2023 Bangkok-Kanchanaburi-Bangkok 600 km, 3d2n, 7k.
In nov2022, I met a taxi driver who was chatty (in Thai, limited English) and interesting subjects, and safe driving, and car well maintained as far as I can judge, so I asked for his contact details and price for daytrips. He quoted 1800 per day plus fuel (NGV one tank 200 THB for 200 km) plus hotel. For a trip to Kanchanaburi 3d2n that became 7k (3 x 1800 + 600 fuel + 2 x 500 per night). A reasonable amount, I would do it again here or elsewhere. 


Srisaket 5jul2025 2k THB for about 100 km and 6 h (taxi 650+720=1370). 

Richard Barrow reports the same pricing here:
https://www.richardbarrow.com/2023/02/weekend-train-trip-to-phimai-and-ubon-ratchathani/
At Ubon Ratchathani we were picked up by a pre-arranged driver and van. The driver is Tun (Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005096521117&mibextid=ZbWKwL). The cost is 1,800 baht per day. We have to pay for his hotel room tonight and petrol at the end of the trip.

11feb2023 Daytrip Bangkok to Ayutthaya 200 km, 9 h, 2k2 (taxi 1300+900=2200). You can easily get to Ayutthaya by train, but from railway station it's 4 km to historical park, and places of interest are spread out, too much to get around on foot. One would have to rent a bicycle at railway station (and spend the day in heat and sun) or hire a tuk-tuk at railway station (from internet: at railway station they charge 300 THB/h, a bit further away 200 THB/h). When travelling to Ayutthaya with friends, I go by taxi from Bangkok.

I came to the conclusion that for daytrips renting car with driver is better value for money than renting car and driving (not myself, but when traveling with friends who can drive in Thailand but don't own a car). Car with driver would run on NGV, a rented car would run on petrol with higher fuel costs. And you don't have to look out for traffic, parking, navigation.

Another issue could be time for pick-up and return of rental car. In Cambodia, I paid for a rented car and a friend drove, and during the trip he told me return is 16. Way too early for me. We were out of town and I want to make the most of it, which is sightseeing until sunset 18, and back in town 20, and return the car next day in the morning. In this case, I had to pay for one day more. There might be car rentals that allow 24 hours. I once read about a hotel that has no fixed check-in and check-out times, but allows 24 hours.

Bangkok to Pattaya (Ibis Sathorn to Tuk-Com 140 km, 2 h, 1k2, taxi 910+0). Tolls would be on top of that. Some people take taxi between Bangkok and Pattaya. I only do when I have stops for sightseeing along the way, else I take bus which takes about 4h door-to-door vs. taxi about 2h.

Here some rates Bangkok taxi to various places:

from: https://www.facebook.com/ladydriverthailand/posts/140644991883581 they have male and female drivers.

Here a recent example from Pai (for reference, I didn't use this service), considerable more expensive because it's Pai, Chiang Mai and many curves and mountains.
Pai to Chiang Mai 130 km, 3 h, 2k2 (taxi 845+180=1025, without mountains it would take only 2 h, still twice as expensive as my trips).


In other countries in SEAsia, renting a car with driver was similar or estimated up to 1.5 times more expensive. Myanmar daytrips around Moulmein and Dawei. Cambodia just car rental, friend drives. Car with driver daytrip Siem Reap to Anlong Veng
https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2023/01/anlong-veng-attractions.html
Anlong Veng 300 km, 12 h, 100 USD=3k3 (taxi 1950+1080=3030).
And other daytrips (dec2020 stone field; Kulen mountain; Kbal Spean and Banteay Srei) similar prices.

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Wednesday, 5 July 2023

Dating Thai Boys (97) Popular boy pictures (4)

Dating Thai Boys (97) Popular boy pictures (4)

Continued from https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2021/11/dating-thai-boys-89-popular-boy.html, see there for introduction.

Pictures in this post are from social media, and appearance in my blog or on gay online dating does not mean that the boy is gay or available. On the contrary, the online dating profile is most probably not the boy in picture and you are best just wasting your time, at worst being scammed by chatting with the profile.

For most boys I know for sure they are fake profiles (e.g. I know the boy is Thai, but his picture appears in online dating in Cambodia) and for the rest I'm pretty sure they are.

source: https://yaoiy.com/karnsc/













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Sunday, 25 June 2023

General thoughts on massage

General thoughts on massage

Gay massage is only a side theater of war for me, with one out of twenty encounters with boys taking place by gay massage. 4 out of 5 gay massages are satisfactory, i.e. I would recommend the boy to a friend but wouldn't go for him again. Only 1 out of 5 is worth a repeat, over the last years those were (members-only part of sawatdeenetwork)
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?22768-Muang-at-Fah-Lang-Fon-Massage
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?22755-Ball-at-Bua-Chompu-Massage-Silom-Soi-3
Numbers for online dating or gogo bars are better, half I would meet again.

The reasons (why I rarely do massage) are the following:
1. I can get boys from online to my room for 1000 THB, whereas for massage I would have to go there and it would start at 400 for one hour oil massage and 800 tip for boy. That's the low end, for massage place in Saphan Khwai and Inthamara, which happens to be the maximum I would pay. I don't go elsewhere because I don't like prices and attitudes. A friend frequently passes massage places in Silom Soi 6 and got starting offers of up to 3000. Furthermore, there (Silom) you have to negotiate even the boy taking off his clothes. Nowadays, some massage places don't have boys present, rather choose from pictures which offers no advantage over online dating.

2. I go mainly for happy ending. But I don't like oil (wet and slippery) for happy ending, that means conditions are not optimal for me.
On the other hand, a shapely body, glistening/shining with oil (or sweat) under good lighting, can  look great and I had such encounters. Picture below for illustration. Time is limited to one hour, of which half is actual massage. But in Myanmar (before Covid) what was called oil massage in the menu was dry, and I liked the massage and no oil spoils happy ending.

source: Saphan Khwai/Inthamara massage shops on Line, daily posts about their available staff
 

3. The massage part is usually bland/uninspiring, not even arousing/erotic as you would hope, rarely a positive surprise. Whereas with boys from online dating, when I ask them for a massage (inspired by my loyal reader vinapu, who has massage every day when in Thailand), response ranges from refusal to massages that are better than in massage shop.

The lowest point was a massage in a place that usually offers happy ending, where the masseur stayed fully dressed, and out of reach of my hands, throughout the massage and at the end asked if I wanted a handjob. No thanks.

Some requirements for massage room and masseur.
There should be a clock in the room (that works and shows the correct time; I remember a case where there was a clock but clock didn't work and battery was swollen, indicating that is has been empty for a while). Dimmable light and remote control for aircon so I can set the light and temperature as I like it. A mirror on the wall would be nice (most short-time hotels have it). Masseur should shower with (and wash) customer after massage (done in some cases without me requesting so, in some cases on request, in some cases there was no opportunity).

Boy should be nude during massage. Boy should keep skin contact other than just hands. When I had massage with Mueang at Fah Lang Fon massage, while I was lying on my front, he was on top of me with his (warm dry) inner thighs touching my outer thighs, which I found erotic. Just skin contact, he didn't put is body weight on me. I'm not a chair.

I like massage of my back with thumbs, elbow, ulna, but rarely get it in gay massage places. I like accidental touching of my genitals (long strokes upper legs) or boy running fingers through my butt crack, but rarely get it at massage places.

Massage techniques I like.
Around 2015-17, there was Bank from Lao in Sathorn. Body not clearly my type, but massage was arousing: running his fingertips from my palm down side of my body to legs, thumbs circular movements on my butt cheeks.

Undercarriage service
I first read about this, and got the name, from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110106063053/http://shamelessmack.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/undercarriage-servicing/

I wrote about this technique here

https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2023/01/gay-activities-dec2022-cambodia.html
Another technique is “undercarriage service”, a name coined by shamelessmack in his first blog (long gone). The masseur sits like in meditation and takes the upper thighs of the massagee on his upper thighs, giving full access to waist and crotch from all sides. I know only one masseur (out of estimated 30 I have had massages with over the years) who applied this technique, Ne from Buriram, originally in Lomchoey (now Zy) massage in Soi Ngam Duplee about 2014, then in Arena about 2016.

https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?22909-Pattaya-Jomtien-Gay-Massages&p=293880#post293880
February 1st, 2023, 22:29 #82 christianpfc
I think I have been to Arena only twice, one boy did this technique and the other not. Indeed very interesting and I would like to get more of, "undercarriage service" in old shamelessmack (long gone). Ne from Buriram, the one who did this technique around 2016.

Caterpillar
https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2023/01/gay-activities-dec2022-cambodia.html
Sat31dec2022 Phnom Penh I ask for a back massage and he does it well, using what I call “caterpillar technique”. He takes a flab of my skin above buttocks between thumb and opposing fingers and then moves the flab all the way up to my shoulders. A weird but pleasant feeling. The first time I had no idea what was going on, had to ask me to show me what he is doing.

On the subject of weird but pleasant feelings: some shower heads (many small holes) are ticklish with a bit of erotic on glans and balls.

Body-to-body
I received one body-to-body massage, the boy's idea after we had met several times for massage and happy ending. I was lying on my front, he was lying on my back and sliding around, not my idea of massage and not erotic for me either.

Massage styles to try
Heco in Phnom Penh (update: closed for good, update: moved)
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?22909-Pattaya-Jomtien-Gay-Massages&p=293880#post293880
February 1st, 2023, 22:29 #82 christianpfc
Some places offer, here a quote from Heco Phnom Penh: Sensual Massage 60 min 28 USD, Tantra / Tantric Massage 60 min 48 USD. Any experience? Is it worth the money? There was a tantric massage years ago in Ratchada, I never went but remember reports it's underwhelming.

Music Massage by Pong: นวดประกอบเพลงโดยพงษ์
https://musicmassage.net/

https://www.paradisemassagebangkok.com/services-2
Massage by woman in Bangkok Sukhumvit Soi 22, from their website: tantric massage (You can ask for any fancy style like dress up, student, nurse and stocking), sensual massage (Naked extra 400), prostate massage, prostate massage + strap-on toy, yoni massage.

Google search for "hegre sensual massage" images or video, some erotic massage techniques out there that I would try, if I knew where. https://www.hegre.com/ NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/groups/993409470681838/permalink/6109760939046640/
Where is the best 'Nuru Massage' in Bangkok? I've tried quite a few and have never had the pleasure of getting the one I wanted. I just want the experience of what a 'Nuru Massage' really is. No happy ending. Thanks.
-It is very sensual and originates from Japan, so look for a Japanese shop
-Just buy some nuru oil


There are still more techniques, e.g. Lomi-lomi.

For more about massage from a connoisseur, see
https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog
https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/massage-explainer/

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